If the build quality isn't garbage, it's not the worst thing ever. If it's your first foray into modern LEDs, you'll be happy.

But I think even 1,000lm is optimistic

is there anything brighter in that size form factor?

Convoy S2+ is a crowd favorite

What did you end up paying for this?

£6.55

($8.64 USD)

Convoy is gonna be at least probably $15, and won't be a "zoomie", which is good and bad.

I need it to be a zoomie

I actually have a Convoy, but I chose a very warm light colour for it

I use that one indoors

People shit on zoomies, ones where you can adjust the focus, because more moving stuff means less waterproofing, and they're relatively inefficient, but if you like em they aren't awful

pfft, waterproof flashlights, as-if water would significantly effect such a simple circuit anyway

It's not the LED you're worried about.

you're right... can we please pour water in all our switches for extra working

It's the small bomb the cell turns into, or the microcontroller that controls it.

Most good lights aren't mechanical nowadays

resistance to great in water to explode the battery

a water short-circuit is very weak

unless you're working with high voltage

@timsandtoms what is the best zoomie?

Or there's anything in the water to act as an electrolyte

I dunno. I don't have any interest in zoomies. Ask /r/flashlight

Why do you need zoomie?

so when I hear a noise outside at night, I can see all the way the to end of my back yard and my neighbor's back yard, from my bedroom window

Right. So needs range. Why zoomie?

because only a zoomie can effectively do that..

Nope

unfocused light dissipates

gets weaker

Get one that's already focused far off then. Not all the light a zoomie makes goes out the front, that's why there's such a distinct beam vs fading out at the edge. It literally just blocks light off on the edge.

IDK about that, I think a-lot of the light is reflected back inside the head, and then projected outwards

I mean, I don't know about cheap options, but there's a reason you don't see nice expensive zoomies

It never reflects 100%

yeah but you can't deny it's 'brighter' at a far distance when zoomed-out

I'd rather have a flashlight that can do both short and long distance, than need one for each task

I just switch to high at that point

if Convoy had a zoomie head option, I'd buy it!

it looks like there are some zoom flashlight reviews on blf

<http://budgetlightforum.com/node/65989>
<http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57733>

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