Message from @Marquis De Sade

Discord ID: 781381225435758622


2020-11-26 04:40:34 UTC  

I don't like the whole "all Jews are evil" thing

2020-11-26 04:41:06 UTC  

So why not identify as fascist, because the creator of Fascism, Giovanni Gentile, was Italian and worked closely with Mussolini @Grim

2020-11-26 04:41:29 UTC  

Are you speaking about classical fascism?

2020-11-26 04:41:48 UTC  

I’m speaking about from what I’ve read from Mosley, Gentile, Mussolini and Rivera

2020-11-26 04:42:26 UTC  

I do identify as fascist, but I don't subscribe to Italian fascism

2020-11-26 04:42:38 UTC  

That’s like saying I’m a tree but I have no roots @Grim

2020-11-26 04:43:00 UTC  

Not quite

2020-11-26 04:43:14 UTC  

Fascism is entirely based on the Italian ideas of Gentile which were heavily influenced by Sorel in France.

2020-11-26 04:43:58 UTC  

Mosley and Rivera literally looked up to Gentile and Mussolini

2020-11-26 04:44:11 UTC  

Yes, but fascism has taken many forms since then. National socialism is fascism but not Italian fascism

2020-11-26 04:44:22 UTC  

National Socialism is revisionist

2020-11-26 04:45:24 UTC  

Fascism originally, was never race-based, was never eugenicist, it wasn’t even anti-semitic

2020-11-26 04:46:54 UTC  

There are only one other sect of fascism, I know of, and that’s nazism

2020-11-26 04:47:15 UTC  

There are plenty of other sects of fascism

2020-11-26 04:47:19 UTC  

Like what

2020-11-26 04:47:38 UTC  

Falange? Which was entirely based on the ideas of Gentile and Mussolini?

2020-11-26 04:48:08 UTC  

The British Blackshirts which were entirely based on Gentile and Mussolini

2020-11-26 04:48:43 UTC  

Everything originated from Italian fascism yes but every different country that ever introduced fascism had a different take on it

2020-11-26 04:49:06 UTC  

Yes but they technically stole most of their ideas from Italian and French philosophers

2020-11-26 04:49:47 UTC  

Stole? That's like saying all modern democratic governments "stole" from Greece

2020-11-26 04:50:01 UTC  

Fascism was an original creation

2020-11-26 04:50:07 UTC  

Gentile said that himself

2020-11-26 04:50:26 UTC  

And other groups adopted what was already existing and evolved it to fit their needs

2020-11-26 04:50:33 UTC  

All fascists support corporatist state, all fascists support national unity, all fascists are against internationalism, all fascists oppose classical liberalism

2020-11-26 04:50:53 UTC  

To assume the only "true" fascism is Italian fascism is ignorant

2020-11-26 04:51:20 UTC  

There really isn’t nothing fascists disagree on, with the exception of the fascists in Nazi Germany and Romania

2020-11-26 04:52:24 UTC  

Lenin believed Marxism should be implemented in Russia, they still taught people the works of Marx.

You think we should abandon the very foundations of Fascism just because they’re “Italian”

2020-11-26 04:52:37 UTC  

It has nothing to do with being Italian

2020-11-26 04:53:00 UTC  

I'm saying fascism can be and is used as an umbrella term for all different nuanced types of fascism

2020-11-26 04:53:22 UTC  

Are you saying the Russian version of Marxism, Marxist-Leninism is completely different from the Jewish ideology of Marx?

2020-11-26 04:53:49 UTC  

I'm saying there is nuance

2020-11-26 04:54:05 UTC  

Give me evidence that Mosley disagreed with Mussolini’s ideas

2020-11-26 04:54:18 UTC  

What are you on about?

2020-11-26 04:54:26 UTC  

Your low IQ

2020-11-26 04:54:35 UTC  

Do you not understand nuance?

2020-11-26 04:54:55 UTC  

Are you telling me Italian Fascism and Irish fascism are the same exact thing?

2020-11-26 04:56:09 UTC  

Or perhaps that clerical fascism is the same as Italian fascism

2020-11-26 04:57:32 UTC  

Or maybe Social Democracy is the same as Absolute Democracy? After all, they're both a form of democracy right?

2020-11-26 05:33:13 UTC  

You wrecked him so bad he left

2020-11-26 05:45:06 UTC  

@Kamryn rEad ahhjshckhx

2020-11-26 05:45:39 UTC  

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