Or ILBE bags

Thats about your options

@androidcrawler The Marine ILBE packs, 2nd and 3rd Gen. The Kelty Eagle.

And mysteryranch stuff too

Anyone bought a down sleeping bag from China?

But money.money money

Anyone own a Naturehike or Ageismax sleeping bag?

Thoughts on this? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33034554227.html

one sec let me show you my current bags thats dying from the weight

my current load is 13 kg max but I want something I can really abuse

Get a Maxpedition Duffel

@Aqualiteking Naturehike is high quality chink but not high quality enough to have warranties

I'd rather just get two products from other companies for the same price

plus I shove a whole razor 2013 blackwidow keyboard in there too

Sleeping bags should be easy to do down to like 20F or maybe -5C. For anything colder I think you should stick with real brand names

Any time you rely on chinks for health and safety you're probably making a mistake

I was thinking of getting a custom leather bag made

Why

Just sounds like an easy way to get a shittily made bag

cause where I live it would be cheaper than buying a 300 dollar military bag

My $300 military bag isn't as good as my $65 civilian bag

please remember that I managed to get customer shoes made fro like

30 bucks

to due currency differences

Sleeping bags are no fucking joke dude

You will fucking die if you go out in the cold with a shit bag

Leather is not a particularly strong insulator and you ain't getting a fur sleeping bag for less than a good synthetic one

oh, the purpose is not to sleep inside it

just to carry lots of stuff

I was talking about sleeping bags bruh

Leather bags whatever

Won't last long and probably have shit storage capabilities but who cares

Chinese leatherwork is cheap as shit

But you wanted a large capacity bag @androidcrawler ?

For what purpose?

If backpacking, leather is a big nono because of shitty weight ratio and poor weight distribution

I meant carrying large weights around

I know

Doing what