@Bibleman Agreed @Derek Nelson Fantastic FE verse brother

I have problems with both of them. Nothing to do with the council. I detest it. I so wish we had most of what they removed and did a through job of removing, Some of what they say simply does not make sense to me. Like Jasher making the members of the 12 tribes into superheroes with super powers. The giants also having super powers over and above the advantages of having that strength that would come from a large body.

I prefer to believe that our God is a God of love. Not a God of war. I prefer the Genesis account where Jacob has his sons repent for murdering all the men in an entire city for simply taking their sister into marriage in a way they disapproved of. She seemed OK with it. Also they seemed OK with taking the women there as wives. After all they did not murder the women and children. So what became of them.

With Enoch the problem I have is related. I see God as a God of love with total consensus of the mind in Heaven. I believe once you come to a full understanding of the love that is in Heaven you would not be allowed to simply leave it and use the power of Heaven to enslave people on earth. I do not personally believe that the Council of Heaven has huge conflicts within it that would allow fallen angels to fall while maintaining all the power of Heaven. Or at least a lot of it.

I find it more likely that wayaietgu means these fallen ones were born of women. Not that they married women in their Heavenly form. I believe they became children with no more power than other children. Though most likely they did have a superior personality and were very smart.

Satan/Lucifer/Devil I believe they are real as men see it. Feel it and are possessed by it. They worship it even. So to say that it simply does not exist is to ignore reality as I see it. However I do not ignore the power of the Council in Heaven. I believe it exercised power over it. Restricts it to whatever level they see fit in each situation. Why calling out to God, Jesus, Yehovah, or however we see God works to free us from bondage to it in many cases.

Oh, a long explanation for the sethite view, a nonsense 5th century philosophy that goes against everything biblical

I utterly reject that.

This is the most heated channel in the server

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Fire, Fire Fire. Where is the extinguisher?

All hands on deck.

I have no problem being corrected when someone shows me how I got it wrong. Just expressing my personal view.

The extinguisher was thrown into the river during the Enlightenment

https://sites.google.com/u/0/s/1iSKbUdqU0SxpjcjdK1_yUK3tc5Pf6VzV/edit?authuser=0

Join now and be forgiven

Now there's heretics infidels and satanists alike wandering the earth

Yes taking the red pill does that.

Oh yes there are. So many deceivers.

@A13X is a good example of that

I do not deceive, only share the will of my God.

What does that word mean. You did not answer and Google does not find the meaning.

Obviously trolling

Ravenism What on earth is that as you see it?

If I was trolling then why is there over **16** followers

Look at the website and see for yourself.

@A13X stop messing around in here this is a serious room

I’m not fooling around, I’m serious

Even if it was real this form of aggressive preaching isnt liked

I just want what’s best for everyone

Yes I have many personal beliefs I would never share here. Just not the proper place.

I do not share that which would cause contention with no good coming from it.

Read and learn. This is a good place for that.

As is my website.

Feast upon the knowledge of Ravenism and understand my child.

Again at least it's not Steven Christ

Yes I went there. It is fine that you want your own religion. I have my own and just our family of 7. So far I have no desire to try to expand it.

Fine? Its infidelic!

Yeah that's bad

Oh your not Christian

I thought you were Christian but that makes sense

The broad lath leads to destruction, you must follow Jesus and his teachings

Steve if you are religious in the Aristotelian sense and not the cultic sense then that's fine