Message from @Derek Nelson
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I believe you.
also, i think i can answer your query on Elijah and Enoch 😃
they were both Prophets, I.E they knew the Messiah would come.
the prophets had hope of the Messiah, they WERE Christians.
I doubt mostly everything at this point. So many lies are told to us. Why would i not doubt. I am super close to God, whom i call Yehovah, in prayer by Deut 6:4 in the name of Yehovah. Yehovah helps me. If Jesus is part of Yehovah I am very happy he is.
any Jew before Christ had HOPE of the Messiah, that did make them Christian.
Only Daniel ever wrote about the Messiah. Two times in three verses.
there are many, many Messianic prophecies actually
prophets knew Jesus would come, Abraham rejoiced to see his day after all.
I went through a list of 365 and not one passed the test when examined. Most had nothing to do with an anointed of God coming.
I don’t want to bear any heavy burden on you, Steve. And yes, Jesus is a part of God. Acknowledging that to God was what saved me in prayer to him. I had no idea it was so important. So, I do believe exercising some prayer in acknowledgment of that to God for you, could yield something God has in store for you.
It was more about what they said that Jesus did not do. That was what was wrong with many which did speak of an anointed one.
also, not all prophesies have been fulfilled yet, Jesus will do the rest when he returns.
Again if he does come i will accept him.
be wary of jews, they will twist things to make it look like Jesus isn't the messiah
I am rather sure Yehovah would tell me in advance even.
dont trust the synagogue of satan
Jesus already did come.
He will return.
I detest Jews. I do not detest Christians. I do not trust them at all. Although I love everyone on earth. I just avoid Jews. Though i watch some videos of one of them. Once in a while I learn their thought process which is helpful. It is not about what they teach. Rather how they teach.
basically this
I guess my problem is which Gospel and I to believe. I tried to make a chronological New Testament. I saw so many huge differences on what happened that soured me on it. How could I know how it went down. Did a lawyer speak to Jesus. Did a scribe speak to Jesus. Did Jesus say it or one of them. So many problems.
they go on a 30 minute tyrade and then get to the point
by the time they make the point you are so annoyed you don't even want to answer back
it's because they want to justify talmud and go on the tyrade
jews are annoying.
I asked an Orthodox Jew about an Old Testament verse. He did not believe what the text says. He told this tall tale about it. Why I should not believe the text in the Old Testament. Wow. Talmud is horrid.
talmud has a whole list of anti jesus stuff, and it's a horrible book, that alone should justify him being the Messiah even if you haven't read the bible
the book of the devil hates Jesus
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Isaiah 53:1-4
**Isaiah 53:1-4 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<1> Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? <2> For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. <3> He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. <4> Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. ```
Isaiah 53:5-8
**Isaiah 53:5-8 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<5> But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. <6> All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. <7> He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. <8> He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. ```
I guess you know this starts in Isaiah 52. This is a continuation.
Yes.
The Hebrew says crushed like when a Lion starts eating you.
Isaiah 52:13-15
**Isaiah 52:13-15 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<13> Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. <14> As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: <15> So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. ```
