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You can't masturate without lust

Therefore it is wrong

It's hedonistic

yeah, i don't like a book telling me what morals i should have.

imagine a book that dictates everything you do

*a book*

Imagine having no faith and being a slave to sin

*a slave*

Well lust is lust. Many will never avoid having lust no matter what. I agree one should not go to porn sites. That would be against the bible. Sex with a woman you are not married to even in your mind while you do that is sinning.

Masturbation is no, you can't do it without lust, so don't do it, it is a lusful thing

Therefore it is sin

haha, a slave would require me working or contributing to someone for their benefit. me not contributing to your morals does not benefit anyone. it changes nothing

Sin kills you, you serve it until you die, then you stay dead

Or it is God gave you the desire to have sex and have children. God gave you that lust. But if marriage is not possible well the lust is still there.

You reject it, you don't accept it and go by it

God is not evil, God doesn't give lust

lust is a natural human instinct. it's how your brain is wired.

then why did he allow it to happen?

Well I think you can get over the mindset of it being sex. Get to the mindset this is just a form of peeing.

nothing stops and goes without him right?

brb

God doesn't want people to be carnal minded sinners

You resist the urges of the flesh, because the flesh wants sin more than righteousness

I suppose we sin if we do not have at least four children to multiply the earth. But reality is what reality is. We do not live where for most that is possible.

Steve, stop taking things out of context just for the purpose of questioning the bible

It's annoying

Again the primary point is. Where in the Bible does it say that is a sin? I know not where that is.

Masturbation is a product of lust lust is sin

I have heard preachers say it but they do not quote the verse.

Jesus spoke against lust

We are to throw lust away

Lust is not necessarily that. You can do that and not lust for a woman. Turn it into just a necessary part of life, removing body fluid.

The verse about if you even look at a woman with lust you committed adultery in your heart, if your right hand offends thee cut it off

You are supposed to keep that fluid

Then the desire is diminished to lust.

Nofap is good

I will say making it into just a body fluid in your mind is no easy task.

Stop trying to make people sin without saying it's sinning. You are being borderline satanic

Just show me the verse. I do not trust Preachers.

I explained it already