Message from @greloom.
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there are more reasons to, based on how the cases happen. The cases you've shown have good reason for not doing it
other reasons are:
allergy/sensitivity to some ingredients in vaccines (for polysorbate 80 for instance)
using immunosuppressive drugs
being sick for a long time (could worsen after vaccination, as further activation of the immune system can worsen the symptoms)
If you have 10 million vaxxed children, only 100 or 0.001% of those 10 mill kids will have an allergic reaction.
still worth no, no matter how much the percentage is
it would otherwise be an application of collective utilitarianism, which is about favoring the majority
If you repeat the same experiment with unvaxxed children measles kills around 25 thousand children and 2.5 million suffer from semi serious side effects from measles. And pneumonia kills 12k children alone. And kids who beat measles will have a severely damaged immune system that needs lots of time to regenerate, leaving space and time for other diseases to attack and harm the immune system even further.
Also, 100 children getting mild side effects or 2.5 million getting actual serious side effects from measles?
Pick.
first of, this is a false dichotomy as you can prevent those 100 cases. Secondly that 2.5 million is based on other factors too.
You would force me to choose the 100 children case
How is it a "false dichotomy"?
since there isn't much looking into other details that also (may) play significant roles.
And yes, those 100 cases CAN be prevented. I'm just talking about the actual "vax injuries".
They can be prevented by..
You guessed it.
Vaccines.
nope
Watch this video in it's entirety.
those 100 cases can be prevented by prescreening and medical exemption
"Medical exemption" causes more death.
I'd pick the 2.5 million children.
Vaccines actually cause a very dangerous medical condition however. @Lancelot
that could be Guillian Barre syndrome
No. It's called being alive.
this comes to a phenomenon known as multiple lotteries
This also comes to a phenomenon called herd immunity. If you don't want to vaxx your kid, that'll be fine. The other vaxxed people can protect your kid because it spreads through no one, as they're all vaccinated.
furthermore the video you've provided frames the situation by calling most cases anecdotes. It looks to this with a scientific lens, not at a philosophical lens
how long does the immunity from a vaccine last? Even after two or more times of repetition?
Your entire lifetime.
and how is that proven?
Got measles as a kid?
Tell me if anyone here did
none, only where the outbreaks took place. There are outbreaks taking place in highly vaccinated communities
and I would still prefer having had measles as there's been research going on, showing the virus works against cancer
yea i had the measles mumps and chickenpox when i was a kid and so did all my friends and not one of us ever got injured from it like thee vaccines do to ppl and i will never have to worry about getting them again!!!! also if your heard immunity worked then those vaccinated would not have to worry about those un vaccinated would they. it is all a lie. plus there is proof the measles is being spread thru the vaccine https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-03-06-genetic-sequencing-science-breakthrough-just-proved-that-measles-outbreaks-are-caused-by-the-measles-vaccine.html
Anyone?
the right of taking risks should be important. Those deaths and complications took mostly place in countries where hygiene is bad and where malnutrition takes place (regularly), regardless of vaccination rate.
Also, yes my dude, measles vaccines DO contain the actual virus.
Just a weakened version of it.