Message from @Pence
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After returning from a trip to Egypt, Aristotle noted, “There are stars seen in Egypt and…Cyprus which are not seen in the northerly regions.” This phenomenon can only be explained if humans were viewing the stars from a round surface, Aristotle continued, claiming that the sphere of the Earth is “of no great size, for otherwise the effect of so slight a change of place would not be quickly apparent.” (De caelo, 298a2-10)
The farther you go from the equator, the farther the "known" constellations go towards the horizon, to be replaced by different stars. This would not have happened if the world was flat:
@DeltaA350
They have already been debunked
The moon doesn’t prove anything and Ships don’t go over a curve
And shadows work on a flat earth
@jeremy well, we can. When an asteroid orbits near the Earth and enters the atmosphere for a period of time then bounces right back into the deep unknown, wouldn't it hit the container? But we see that it doesn't hit a container.
Standing on a flat plateau, you look ahead toward the horizon. You strain your eyes, then take out your favorite binoculars and stare through them, as far as your eyes (with the help of the binocular lenses) can see.
Next, climb up the closest tree—the higher the better, just be careful not to drop those binoculars and break their lenses. Then look again, strain your eyes, and stare through the binoculars out to the horizon.
The higher up you climb, the farther you will see. Usually, we tend to relate this to Earthly obstacles—like the fact we have houses or other trees obstructing our vision on the ground, and climbing upwards we have a clear view—but that’s not the true reason. Even if you stood on a completely clear plateau with no obstacles between you and the horizon, you would see much farther from the greater height than you would on the ground.
This phenomenon is caused by the curvature of the Earth as well, and would not happen if the Earth was flat:
are the stars in your imaginary sky vacuum u believe in ?
@DeltaA350 no copy pasta
Use your own arguments @DeltaA350
lol those are my arguments
@Pence It literally is an illogical fallacy and it is why most people shouldn't bother bringing it up because you saying "Hey look in the sky! Look at those objects that are sphere shaped! We must be a sphere as well!" And that isn't how it is both measured and actually framed as we know about the earth's actual shape through many ways
you want me to come up with some genius argument that isn't on the internet already?
Research the longest distance picture guys:
440km away, taken from 2820 meters high.
The mountain should be hidden 5 km below the curve...... it's flat
https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=30&h0=10&unit=imperial. Do the math
so are u saying the second law of thermodynamics is wrong ?
@Soldz (CF) it is called a logical fallacy. If you don't know the correct phrase, I believe it is safe to assume that you don't know what a logical fallacy is.
@California Nightmare why do the masts of ships appear first?
So a bs article written by someone that doesn’t know how Perspective works or how science works is your argument? @DeltaA350
Lmao
Perspective and angular resolution
and if you look at Chicago from across lake Michigan, you realize that you can't see Chicago's ground level?
You can @DeltaA350
and if you are higher up, you see further b/c earth is a globe?
no u can't there are photos
ur closer to the ground so the bottom of objects in the distance will disappear first since we cant see forever
unfortunately I can't put them here
no if youre higher up u changed ur perspective and now have a better angular resolution for objects on the ground
So, if the Earth is flat, why can't I see Europe from across the ocean?
u cant see forever
@Pence
Perspective,Storms,smog,mist,etc
how is tht wrong ?
are we not using our eyes to see ?
We are....
ok
I use my ears to see
Our distance of vision on changes on biological things.
lol
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