Even in an anarchic society

yes

I did forget the names unfortunetly but one of them was decartes and some other dude

They have two oppinions

Anarchy is an impossibility

Because there is always a tribal leader, a warlord, etc

One thinks the human in its natural state is evil and egoistic

the government constantly changes to what to people want and the voting system makes sense

The other thinks it is peaceful and nice

Now

We need a government

To either prodect us from all other egoistic humans

yes, but do we need one that is corrupt to the core?

Of course not

if its corrupt they will get voted out

control does create balance and stability
but there will always be more sinister things going on
Because there are good and evil people

The other dude thinks government is bad and came to play because of material goods

Depends what you by sinister

voted out? oh come now

Okay first of all

lol..what are you 12 years old? who need government?

What is sinister to you, is good to then

*them

There are no "good" and "evil" people

And than

Corrupt officials dont get voted out often enough lads

Objective morality is a straight up myth

democracy is a game -not real...you can see the perfec example BREXIT

yeh thats a problem

I am not going to aegue with someone who is named Baby Murder Apologist XD

Govenrment do not "control" they take away a little bit of freedom

mrew ill happily murder each and every last person for my last survival but luckily i have a goverment

Oof. Ad homenim

aren't they the same ones that provide us with this voting system

@Seeker of Truth Wtf are you really down that road again?

I DIDN'T NAME MYSELF LIKE THAT

And yet

Do you see the name of this channel?

Governments take a bit freedom away

It is not civil debate

government live of your work and you are supid enough to give them money in exchene that they can extortt and limit you...