Message from @Citizen Z
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Who caused God?
Thats because you think you know everything
Once you admit you cant and dont know everything then it works
I could have said that about your starting argument as well
You think god obeys our laws of physics?
Well assuming he created this universe then no
Is cause and effect not part of his universe?
Can you have space without time? When would you put it?
That's the thing right
Can you time without space? Where would you put it?
If big bang was the first moment time, there was no "before big bang"
So your intuitions about the cause and effect goes straight out the window
Its asinine to think you can know all this
Just the first moment in time to the last
Not even saying we do know this
I dont worry about that sorta thing
Im fine with the fact we will never know
But you know there must be a god?
Must be a designer yes
"Thats because you think you know everything"
It's really complicated stuff actually
Not simple as you put it
That definition is useless here
Nothing doesnt just turn into everything
Definitions doesn't prove anything
I agree
But there wasn't nothing at any point in time
There was always somethign
In every point in time
Saying "before time" doesn't make sense
(again, not saying we know this but hypothetically)
As far my little brain knows. Yes there must be a designer. Do i know what created the god who created the man who created my watch
No
We just know it was all designed
Well I disagree that we know it has to have been designed
That would imply infinite designers
Doesn't really help
Thats the most ignorant statement
No. It implies a designer
And nothing that designed the designer?