Definitions doesn't prove anything

I agree

But there wasn't nothing at any point in time

There was always somethign

In every point in time

Saying "before time" doesn't make sense

(again, not saying we know this but hypothetically)

As far my little brain knows. Yes there must be a designer. Do i know what created the god who created the man who created my watch

No

We just know it was all designed

Well I disagree that we know it has to have been designed

That would imply infinite designers

Doesn't really help

Thats the most ignorant statement

No. It implies a designer

And nothing that designed the designer?

God just is?

Who designed your computer?

The perfect being just is, without any designer?

Using your logic would get infinite gods

Not interested in questions i cant answer

Expect you do

God is outside of our laws

That can be assured

All I am saying is: you cannot "Know" there is a designer

The creator doesnt follow our laws

By that standard you "Know" there is a second god

He created them

And what created this perfect god?

No. My 3 pound brain cant comprehend gods laws. If my brain could, then god wouldnt be god

Expect you say you know there has to be a god

Never said you weirdo

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The honest answer here is that we don't know whether there is a creator or not

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It's too complex for us to answer at this time

But a creater certainly does not make things simpler

Just to point out: I have nothing against people being religious at all

Zero problems with it

(except when those beliefs lead to harm of-course, but that would be specific instances of specific beliefs....)

Hey I am not banned yet