Message from @Wretch

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2019-09-20 19:49:46 UTC  

Read the history about vaccines first

2019-09-20 19:50:07 UTC  

Yeah, you bombed me with so many questions that I may not have technical knowledge to awnser

2019-09-20 19:50:23 UTC  

If I say what is on my knowledge you would discredit it

2019-09-20 19:50:38 UTC  

So I pointed out founts for you that respond the main question

2019-09-20 19:50:44 UTC  

how the heck did the measles vaccine stop measles if it was bottomed out before the vaccine was even introduced ?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552285797038948364/624693950783029278/Vaccine-graph-us-deaths-1900-19651-1024x636.jpg

2019-09-20 19:51:04 UTC  

The USA isn't the only country that vaccines exist

2019-09-20 19:51:14 UTC  

On my country vaccines really helped

2019-09-20 19:51:17 UTC  

in fact every disease was in decline before any of their vaccines

2019-09-20 19:51:22 UTC  

But most articles about it are on my language

2019-09-20 19:51:39 UTC  

So stop ignoring what I say

2019-09-20 19:52:09 UTC  

And hear this, if it is to have a doubtful substance to protect against a deadly pathogen

2019-09-20 19:52:27 UTC  

It is worthy as we don't see the effect of such substance too often

2019-09-20 19:52:52 UTC  

no vaccines did not help it was better understanding of nutrition and hygiene along with better plumbing that stopped it

2019-09-20 19:52:59 UTC  

Medicine may be bitter and cause cancer, but it saved your life multiple times

2019-09-20 19:53:02 UTC  

you even know how you got polio???

2019-09-20 19:53:11 UTC  

you had to ingest feces

2019-09-20 19:53:15 UTC  

hmmmm

2019-09-20 19:53:39 UTC  

That is on your country, not everywhere have the luxury od having better plumping or better nutrition

2019-09-20 19:53:49 UTC  

Also nutrition alone doesn't stop diseases

2019-09-20 19:53:56 UTC  

And yeah, eating feces depends a lot

2019-09-20 19:54:07 UTC  

During World War II and into the 1950s, massive amounts of pesticides, such as DDT, heptachlor, dieldrin, TEPP, malathion, were sprayed on crops eaten by humans and livestock.
Any connection to the chemicals used in spraying the pesticide formulations and polio epidemic are regularly denied. However, the chemicals used in spraying pesticides were found to increase viral infections in hosts.[1,2]
Researcher Janis Gabliks noted in the study titled, Studies of Biologically Active Agents in Cells and Tissue Cultures, that,
“As it is recognized that residues of some agricultural insecticides persist in the body and that cells are continuously exposed to their metabolites, we investigated the possibility that these chemicals may alter certain physiological activities of cells and subsequently influence the susceptibility of hosts to virus infections.” [1]
Parents should also know some of the same chemicals used to spray pesticides (Tween 20, Tween 80, Triton X-100, Nonoxyenol-9) are still present in childhood vaccines. [3,4]

2019-09-20 19:54:29 UTC  

*Note the close correlation to the spraying of pesticides and the worst polio epidemic in US History. “…Before 1940, relatively small amounts of such chemicals as nicotine, rotenone, pyrethrum, and the aresenicals (sic) were used for insect control. During and following World War II a rapid changeover to DDT, heptachlor, dieldrin, TEPP, malathion, and related compounds occurred.” [5]

2019-09-20 19:54:40 UTC  

US history again...

2019-09-20 19:54:58 UTC  

Not all countries are good like the USA

2019-09-20 19:55:14 UTC  

In some places life is harsh

2019-09-20 19:55:25 UTC  

Trivia Fact #2 – Milk Was Heavily Contaminated with Pesticides; Quietly Taken Off Shelves While Farmers Paid
By 1959, the total wholesale value in pesticide products had reached $290 million. The massive pesticide campaign was not without cost. [5]
According to congressional reports, many dairy farmers were devastated from pesticides contaminating milk.
Senate Report 1363 shockingly states,
“The problem which our dairy farmers are facing has been brought about by the use of chemicals approved by the Federal Government to dust crops. Some of these chemicals have been found to contaminate feeds. The contamination passes on into the milk and when the residues of pesticides is found to be of too high a level, the farmers are forced to dump their milk, taking it out of commercial channels. The result has been disastrous to the dairy farmers involved, some of which have had to go into bankruptcy.”
“There had been at that time, reasonable prospect that the problem would have diminished to a point that further extension of the authority would not have been necessary. However, as the Department testified then, several large producers had their milk removed from the market because of DDT residue. The problem had in fact not been solved. The local dairymen, the State governments involved, dairy and cotton associations, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture have been cooperating in an effort to rid us of this problem. The problem, however, still continues and it it appears that it will continue for the forseeable (sic) years to come.” [6]
When it was obvious pesticide residue levels weren’t dropping as hoped, the Dairy Indemnity Payment Program, or DIPP, officially was created through public law in 1968 to reimburse farmers whose milk was contaminated with pesticides. [6, 7]

2019-09-20 19:55:25 UTC  

And on those, you need vaccines to protect the population

2019-09-20 19:56:25 UTC  

lol like the polio outbreak in syria that was cause by the vdpv and not the wpv

2019-09-20 19:56:43 UTC  

do you even know what the vdpv and wpv are???

2019-09-20 19:56:50 UTC  

Why should I?

2019-09-20 19:57:08 UTC  

vaccine derived polio virus is the vdpv

2019-09-20 19:57:18 UTC  

that is what cause the outbreak

2019-09-20 19:57:35 UTC  

not the wild polio virus the wpv

2019-09-20 19:57:39 UTC  

look it up

2019-09-20 19:57:42 UTC  

That's a point for the more safe vaccines team

2019-09-20 19:57:48 UTC  

so the vaccine cause the outbreak lol

2019-09-20 19:58:02 UTC  

so much for them being safe

2019-09-20 19:58:04 UTC  

Ye, some polio vaccines are less safer

2019-09-20 19:58:24 UTC  

And they may have been wrongly prepared

2019-09-20 19:58:27 UTC  

Or idk

2019-09-20 19:58:30 UTC  

I am not a medic