Message from @Wretch
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So either we both founts are real our both of ours are fake
Because excuse me, but it's easier for vaccines to be safe, that's what we see each and everyday
lol that is not what is the reality
I think the technician class should debate more with the common population to answer such questions like "are vaccines actually safe" because I agree, most scientists act like if you are a not so intelligent human being if you disagree with science likeyur doing, I belive your idea is wrong but your questioning self is a good part
your forgetting even they could not answer 1 of those 9 questions
Read the history about vaccines first
Yeah, you bombed me with so many questions that I may not have technical knowledge to awnser
If I say what is on my knowledge you would discredit it
So I pointed out founts for you that respond the main question
how the heck did the measles vaccine stop measles if it was bottomed out before the vaccine was even introduced ?
The USA isn't the only country that vaccines exist
On my country vaccines really helped
in fact every disease was in decline before any of their vaccines
But most articles about it are on my language
So stop ignoring what I say
And hear this, if it is to have a doubtful substance to protect against a deadly pathogen
It is worthy as we don't see the effect of such substance too often
no vaccines did not help it was better understanding of nutrition and hygiene along with better plumbing that stopped it
Medicine may be bitter and cause cancer, but it saved your life multiple times
you even know how you got polio???
hmmmm
That is on your country, not everywhere have the luxury od having better plumping or better nutrition
Also nutrition alone doesn't stop diseases
And yeah, eating feces depends a lot
During World War II and into the 1950s, massive amounts of pesticides, such as DDT, heptachlor, dieldrin, TEPP, malathion, were sprayed on crops eaten by humans and livestock.
Any connection to the chemicals used in spraying the pesticide formulations and polio epidemic are regularly denied. However, the chemicals used in spraying pesticides were found to increase viral infections in hosts.[1,2]
Researcher Janis Gabliks noted in the study titled, Studies of Biologically Active Agents in Cells and Tissue Cultures, that,
“As it is recognized that residues of some agricultural insecticides persist in the body and that cells are continuously exposed to their metabolites, we investigated the possibility that these chemicals may alter certain physiological activities of cells and subsequently influence the susceptibility of hosts to virus infections.” [1]
Parents should also know some of the same chemicals used to spray pesticides (Tween 20, Tween 80, Triton X-100, Nonoxyenol-9) are still present in childhood vaccines. [3,4]
*Note the close correlation to the spraying of pesticides and the worst polio epidemic in US History. “…Before 1940, relatively small amounts of such chemicals as nicotine, rotenone, pyrethrum, and the aresenicals (sic) were used for insect control. During and following World War II a rapid changeover to DDT, heptachlor, dieldrin, TEPP, malathion, and related compounds occurred.” [5]
US history again...
Not all countries are good like the USA
In some places life is harsh
Trivia Fact #2 – Milk Was Heavily Contaminated with Pesticides; Quietly Taken Off Shelves While Farmers Paid
By 1959, the total wholesale value in pesticide products had reached $290 million. The massive pesticide campaign was not without cost. [5]
According to congressional reports, many dairy farmers were devastated from pesticides contaminating milk.
Senate Report 1363 shockingly states,
“The problem which our dairy farmers are facing has been brought about by the use of chemicals approved by the Federal Government to dust crops. Some of these chemicals have been found to contaminate feeds. The contamination passes on into the milk and when the residues of pesticides is found to be of too high a level, the farmers are forced to dump their milk, taking it out of commercial channels. The result has been disastrous to the dairy farmers involved, some of which have had to go into bankruptcy.”
“There had been at that time, reasonable prospect that the problem would have diminished to a point that further extension of the authority would not have been necessary. However, as the Department testified then, several large producers had their milk removed from the market because of DDT residue. The problem had in fact not been solved. The local dairymen, the State governments involved, dairy and cotton associations, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture have been cooperating in an effort to rid us of this problem. The problem, however, still continues and it it appears that it will continue for the forseeable (sic) years to come.” [6]
When it was obvious pesticide residue levels weren’t dropping as hoped, the Dairy Indemnity Payment Program, or DIPP, officially was created through public law in 1968 to reimburse farmers whose milk was contaminated with pesticides. [6, 7]
And on those, you need vaccines to protect the population
lol like the polio outbreak in syria that was cause by the vdpv and not the wpv
do you even know what the vdpv and wpv are???
Why should I?
vaccine derived polio virus is the vdpv
that is what cause the outbreak
not the wild polio virus the wpv
look it up
That's a point for the more safe vaccines team
so the vaccine cause the outbreak lol