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2019-07-30 01:31:26 UTC  

and directly affecting the angle is bad bc it's by unpredictable refraction

2019-07-30 01:31:33 UTC  

we have a formula for that

2019-07-30 01:31:37 UTC  

yes, any time the rays start unparallel

2019-07-30 01:31:43 UTC  

snells law

2019-07-30 01:31:44 UTC  

do you?

2019-07-30 01:31:45 UTC  

no

2019-07-30 01:31:49 UTC  

nell's law is a formula used to describe the relationship between the angles of incidence and refraction, when referring to light or other waves passing through a boundary between two different isotropic media, such as water, glass, or air.

2019-07-30 01:31:50 UTC  

snell's law is for refraction at a boundary

2019-07-30 01:31:53 UTC  

nsintheta

2019-07-30 01:32:25 UTC  

but any rays that start slightly non-parallel (the thing we're testing with the wells)

2019-07-30 01:32:32 UTC  

will have their divergence affected by refraction

2019-07-30 01:32:41 UTC  

i mean of course...they start at a point and have to reach different wells

2019-07-30 01:32:44 UTC  

that are miles apart

2019-07-30 01:32:49 UTC  

so rays from a point will diverge across miles

2019-07-30 01:32:51 UTC  

if that were true then putting wells inches apart should give different angles

2019-07-30 01:33:02 UTC  

and on the way to each well, refraction will affect them differently

2019-07-30 01:33:15 UTC  

where do you get inches? i never gave any numbers

2019-07-30 01:33:24 UTC  

just an assumption

2019-07-30 01:33:30 UTC  

we should get shadows that are flipped

2019-07-30 01:33:36 UTC  

since divergent rays are at play

2019-07-30 01:33:49 UTC  

i'm confused, divergent rays are always at play

2019-07-30 01:33:58 UTC  

they have to be divergent in order to originate from a point sun and reach two wells

2019-07-30 01:34:02 UTC  

that little ms paint drawing you made

2019-07-30 01:34:07 UTC  

you only pretend they aren't when you pretend the sun's rays are entirely parallel

2019-07-30 01:34:10 UTC  

ye

2019-07-30 01:34:19 UTC  

that would cause divergent rays too

2019-07-30 01:34:47 UTC  

it would affect the divergence is more what i should say

2019-07-30 01:34:59 UTC  

all rays that aren't from an infinite sun and parallel, are divergent

2019-07-30 01:35:40 UTC  

also i couldd see your point that, if you can say they're roughly parallel

2019-07-30 01:35:48 UTC  

then you could say their divergence could be roughly unaffected at one point

2019-07-30 01:35:55 UTC  

that's fine, until the fact that the wells are separated

2019-07-30 01:36:04 UTC  

so it's different portions of atmosphere, each which can refract differently

2019-07-30 01:36:09 UTC  

so the result is still unpredictable

2019-07-30 01:36:35 UTC  

yeah, that link is pretending that the sun's rays are parallel

2019-07-30 01:36:44 UTC  

like, you can see from his diagrams that they aren't

2019-07-30 01:36:53 UTC  

but that, you know, close enough

2019-07-30 01:37:55 UTC  

but ye if we're being honest about the physics

2019-07-30 01:38:03 UTC  

the issue is that the rays will travel through 2 different parts of the atmosphere

2019-07-30 01:38:21 UTC  

so parallel or not, they'll get refracted differently just bc it's 2 separate bits of atmosphere

2019-07-30 01:38:39 UTC  

and that can affect divergence and everything else and put it all out of whack