haha yes. you're missing the point, I think.

face me coward

Keyword: container....

Does the heliocentric model have a container?

there is a container in that you need one for a vacuum. in that sense, you could say the *universe* is the container.

@Mathieus the Walking Witness face me damnit

@Drewski4343 any scientific evidence of a vacuum without a container?

drewski, can you tell him to face me damnit

Yet, you claim "you reject science"

Talking to me

Who is the one rejectimg science here?

That's called a projection fallacy

space I suppose? The fact remains that inside my hypothetical chamber, you have a pressure gradient next to a vacuum.

You're literally projecting yourself into me

please tell him to go on vc

hes blocked meh

@Drewski4343 once again... We are seeking scientific evidence of a vacuum without a container... Not theories/ assumptions

@Mathieus the Walking Witness Katto wants to chat in VC with you.

@Mathieus the Walking Witness face me coward

@Фатто Катто ad hominem

come on

oh, haha, I think he unblocked you

you want a debate

then come on

there is no vacuum without a container, technically. I know I said space, but technically the bounds of the universe would be the "container".

@Drewski4343 just give me a specific time when you want to debate, man👍

sounds good! I'll see if I can't tonight after the baby goes down.

I wouldn't dude, he's not polite, he's just annoying

I'm always hopeful the debate stays civil. I'll give the benefit of the doubt.

Mathieus is apparently terribly toxic in debates

let me double check that

@Mathieus the Walking Witness do you have a phone/pc?

@Drewski4343 the vc debate with @Фатто Катто was nothing but ad hominem, resort to consensus fallacies, red herring fallacies... then 2 other ballers decided to join and ruin the debate...

@Akhanyatin phone

I'm uninterested in ad homs and cheap diversion tactics. I prefer a civil debate.

Me too

how do you barter for a phone line?
(not trying to be an arse, i'm just curious)

@Drewski4343 for my debates I expect scientific evidence via scientific method

@Akhanyatin my friends give me what they know I want (in this case, a phone card) and I trade them what they want

@Akhanyatin the dollar bill never touches my fingers

Hasn't in a few years now