Just wanna say, for the whole *why do planes take these strange routes* argument: 1) Applying routes to the mercator map is meaningless; it's a heavily distorted projection of the globe onto a 2D map. 2) ETOPS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETOPS

how can making people believe in round earth control them

They feel the satisfaction of being right

Because they are

so, I tried to derive equations for a 3 well (or 3 stick) experiment without requiring the runrays to be parallel. Key word "tried"

Since this is for civil debate I'm curious to know if anyone wants to debate or discuss abortion? I've recently been watching and reading up on the subject and want to see what others believe is moral on the issue

What about the baby's choice?

Would you like it if your mother aborted you before you had a chance to see the world?

What capitol crime did you comit as a baby to deserve the death penalty?

How would you know any of that as a baby?

You wouldn't

"Oh, he does not know yet, let's kill him before he understands anything."

anyways, that's my position

Well it depends on the scenario of the parents

Is it murder in your eyes?

Killing a baby is worse than wrongfully putting an innocent man to death. The baby hasnt even had the opportunity to comit any crimes or mistakes.

What about the parents in the event they can not provide for the child

Why have a baby in the first place?

So the baby has to suffer the punishment of the parents mistakes?

I'd agree to the extent that a baby shouldn't be murdered for no reason

I think we all agree on that

There are states that have legalized murder in that regard

Let me get my source on it real quick

An innocent life has to be forever deleted from the world because of selfish parents "oops".

What percent of abortion is caused by teen pregnancy?

I don't know, but who do you blame for teen pregnancy? the parents of the teen for not raising their children properly? the schools for "indoctrinating" the kids with twisted liberal garbage that destroy the fabric of morality?

Thats something that requires further investigation

but it's no excuse to murder an innocent human life

https://www.christianpost.com/news/7-states-already-allow-abortion-up-to-birth-not-just-new-york.html "The seven (now eight) states that have no gestational limits on abortion are: Alaska, Colorado, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, and Vermont, along with Washington, D.C."

Seems like a reasonable protest

Up to birth abortion is murder by definition but it becomes a blurred like when they're still in the body of the mother

After you kill your own baby, you might be able to redeem yourself by giving your mom a gun and telling her to blow your brains out after you finish your abortion.

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Abortion seems like something that needs background information in a scenario to determine wether an abortion is reasonable or for selfish needs.

You were once a baby and if you didn't have a right to decie to live, hmm think about it.

I'd agree to an extent Gary

economic burden and 'oops I made a mistake' is not a moral and ethical reason to have an abortion

As a baby my life is not in my hands, its up to the parents to make the final decision on wether they KNOW if they can provide for me or not

Since there are people who do rape women and live with the mark of a child I think it would be alright in that regard

I'd disagree ther

but at the same time, I don't want to talk about it at all