Message from @SunRazor
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I think we all agree on that
There are states that have legalized murder in that regard
Let me get my source on it real quick
An innocent life has to be forever deleted from the world because of selfish parents "oops".
What percent of abortion is caused by teen pregnancy?
I don't know, but who do you blame for teen pregnancy? the parents of the teen for not raising their children properly? the schools for "indoctrinating" the kids with twisted liberal garbage that destroy the fabric of morality?
Thats something that requires further investigation
but it's no excuse to murder an innocent human life
https://www.christianpost.com/news/7-states-already-allow-abortion-up-to-birth-not-just-new-york.html "The seven (now eight) states that have no gestational limits on abortion are: Alaska, Colorado, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, and Vermont, along with Washington, D.C."
Seems like a reasonable protest
Up to birth abortion is murder by definition but it becomes a blurred like when they're still in the body of the mother
After you kill your own baby, you might be able to redeem yourself by giving your mom a gun and telling her to blow your brains out after you finish your abortion.
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Abortion seems like something that needs background information in a scenario to determine wether an abortion is reasonable or for selfish needs.
You were once a baby and if you didn't have a right to decie to live, hmm think about it.
I'd agree to an extent Gary
economic burden and 'oops I made a mistake' is not a moral and ethical reason to have an abortion
As a baby my life is not in my hands, its up to the parents to make the final decision on wether they KNOW if they can provide for me or not
Since there are people who do rape women and live with the mark of a child I think it would be alright in that regard
I'd disagree ther
I agree with that @Dear Mason
However, I don't believe it can be justified if you have sex willingly and think that abortion is the only way to go due to financial reasons
Putting a child up for adoption exists for a reason
In the example of rape, what choice does a women have in pregnancy, but in the case where she has a choice but is reckless can be seen two different ways
I also include incest in this category
there are people who can't have children and would happily adopt
I happen to know someone who, because of her health problems, having a baby will kill her and the baby. She's looking to adopt as soon as she's "settled in".
From what i understand, though abortion is ONE choice, it should not be the default choice when it comes to unwanted pregnancy
Planned ParentHood makes big money off of abortions. So they'd push abortion right away instead of adoption. Adoption is a threat to PPH
fetuses can experience pain as early as only 5 weeks
But a doctor from planned parenthood might argue with you @ccrisz that the fetus won't remember the pain once it's dead.
wow
Any company profiting off something will gladly take its side no matter how bad it is
well, I don't want to continue in this debate to be honest.
my mom never had an abortion, but she lost 3 babies, siblings of mine. And after many decades she's still affected by the loss
Those women who have abortions aren't really thinking long term effects on their own biology and psychology as consequences of their abortion
and I'll leave it at that
though unsettling, talks about important topics deserve recognition in order to move on in a sense
it was traumatic enough for me to almost lose my brother. The thought that anyone in their right mind would have an abortion bothers the hell out of me.
This topic sounds like its very important to you