Message from @SunRazor

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2019-10-22 23:36:02 UTC  

I think we all agree on that

2019-10-22 23:36:16 UTC  

There are states that have legalized murder in that regard

2019-10-22 23:36:33 UTC  

Let me get my source on it real quick

2019-10-22 23:36:35 UTC  

An innocent life has to be forever deleted from the world because of selfish parents "oops".

2019-10-22 23:37:20 UTC  

What percent of abortion is caused by teen pregnancy?

2019-10-22 23:39:11 UTC  

I don't know, but who do you blame for teen pregnancy? the parents of the teen for not raising their children properly? the schools for "indoctrinating" the kids with twisted liberal garbage that destroy the fabric of morality?

2019-10-22 23:39:40 UTC  

Thats something that requires further investigation

2019-10-22 23:39:44 UTC  

but it's no excuse to murder an innocent human life

2019-10-22 23:40:03 UTC  

https://www.christianpost.com/news/7-states-already-allow-abortion-up-to-birth-not-just-new-york.html "The seven (now eight) states that have no gestational limits on abortion are: Alaska, Colorado, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, and Vermont, along with Washington, D.C."

2019-10-22 23:41:14 UTC  

Seems like a reasonable protest

2019-10-22 23:41:59 UTC  

Up to birth abortion is murder by definition but it becomes a blurred like when they're still in the body of the mother

2019-10-22 23:42:37 UTC  

After you kill your own baby, you might be able to redeem yourself by giving your mom a gun and telling her to blow your brains out after you finish your abortion.

2019-10-22 23:43:28 UTC  

🤔

2019-10-22 23:43:44 UTC  

Abortion seems like something that needs background information in a scenario to determine wether an abortion is reasonable or for selfish needs.

2019-10-22 23:43:54 UTC  

You were once a baby and if you didn't have a right to decie to live, hmm think about it.

2019-10-22 23:44:33 UTC  

I'd agree to an extent Gary

2019-10-22 23:45:10 UTC  

economic burden and 'oops I made a mistake' is not a moral and ethical reason to have an abortion

2019-10-22 23:45:10 UTC  

As a baby my life is not in my hands, its up to the parents to make the final decision on wether they KNOW if they can provide for me or not

2019-10-22 23:45:37 UTC  

Since there are people who do rape women and live with the mark of a child I think it would be alright in that regard

2019-10-22 23:45:53 UTC  

I'd disagree ther

2019-10-22 23:46:01 UTC  

but at the same time, I don't want to talk about it at all

2019-10-22 23:46:05 UTC  

I agree with that @Dear Mason

2019-10-22 23:46:55 UTC  

However, I don't believe it can be justified if you have sex willingly and think that abortion is the only way to go due to financial reasons

2019-10-22 23:47:08 UTC  

Putting a child up for adoption exists for a reason

2019-10-22 23:47:23 UTC  

In the example of rape, what choice does a women have in pregnancy, but in the case where she has a choice but is reckless can be seen two different ways

2019-10-22 23:47:32 UTC  

I also include incest in this category

2019-10-22 23:47:37 UTC  

there are people who can't have children and would happily adopt

2019-10-22 23:48:37 UTC  

I happen to know someone who, because of her health problems, having a baby will kill her and the baby. She's looking to adopt as soon as she's "settled in".

2019-10-22 23:50:06 UTC  

From what i understand, though abortion is ONE choice, it should not be the default choice when it comes to unwanted pregnancy

2019-10-22 23:50:17 UTC  

Planned ParentHood makes big money off of abortions. So they'd push abortion right away instead of adoption. Adoption is a threat to PPH

2019-10-22 23:50:29 UTC  

fetuses can experience pain as early as only 5 weeks

2019-10-22 23:51:02 UTC  

But a doctor from planned parenthood might argue with you @ccrisz that the fetus won't remember the pain once it's dead.

2019-10-22 23:51:12 UTC  

wow

2019-10-22 23:51:12 UTC  

Any company profiting off something will gladly take its side no matter how bad it is

2019-10-22 23:51:35 UTC  

well, I don't want to continue in this debate to be honest.

2019-10-22 23:52:26 UTC  

my mom never had an abortion, but she lost 3 babies, siblings of mine. And after many decades she's still affected by the loss

2019-10-22 23:53:01 UTC  

Those women who have abortions aren't really thinking long term effects on their own biology and psychology as consequences of their abortion

2019-10-22 23:53:15 UTC  

and I'll leave it at that

2019-10-22 23:53:33 UTC  

though unsettling, talks about important topics deserve recognition in order to move on in a sense

2019-10-22 23:55:09 UTC  

it was traumatic enough for me to almost lose my brother. The thought that anyone in their right mind would have an abortion bothers the hell out of me.

2019-10-22 23:56:26 UTC  

This topic sounds like its very important to you