Message from @rivenator12113

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2019-07-30 14:02:06 UTC  

@SAM101907 Alright, can you please tell me how the Polaris stars are able to be located at the same location everyday when they are 323 light-years away and we are revolving aroudn the sun please

2019-07-30 14:02:22 UTC  

how do you know from lumens how far or how big the star is

2019-07-30 14:02:31 UTC  

or what it is made of

2019-07-30 14:03:44 UTC  

lol i think he quit

2019-07-30 14:04:23 UTC  

just ask any globe earthers this question: how the Polaris stars are able to be located at the same location everyday when they are 323 light-years away and we are revolving around the sun

2019-07-30 14:05:26 UTC  

polaris was the key for me

2019-07-30 14:07:11 UTC  

but the long exposure pictures of polaris doesnt serve well for

2019-07-30 14:07:18 UTC  

flat earth claim

2019-07-30 14:07:54 UTC  

the stars are revolving in a circle around the polaris

2019-07-30 14:07:57 UTC  

for me it was the nasa footage glitches and the ropes, warner von braun firmament quote on his death, polaris and how nasa said they cant even go back to the moon

2019-07-30 14:07:59 UTC  

@anon415454+4646 You can use a spectrograph to determine the elements in the star. The light waves reflected back with give you its composition (this has been tested on earth already). As for luminosity, if we know the distance to the sun, and we know it’s luminosity, than we can look at another similar star and calculate distance by the rate the decrease in brightness or what not.

2019-07-30 14:08:17 UTC  

that doesnt make sense unless you are directly under the polaris

2019-07-30 14:08:38 UTC  

also the accidental moon data which was lost

2019-07-30 14:09:11 UTC  

@rivenator12113 You just said it’s 323 lightyears away. A massive object that far and bright won’t appear to move much.

2019-07-30 14:09:57 UTC  

@SAM101907 Nice, you see how NASA bull shits us? I quoted it from NASA, you see how it doesn't make sense?

2019-07-30 14:11:50 UTC  

There are two possibilities, 1 that we are living on a flat earth and the polaris stars is revolving above earth or 2 that the polaris stars are going faster than the speed of light. Which one is it?

2019-07-30 14:12:26 UTC  

@rivenator12113 It makes plenty of sense. And no, that does not mean Polaris is traveling at the speed of light.

2019-07-30 14:12:37 UTC  

@SAM101907 but how do you know that the object you are looking at isnt ten times bigger but ten times further?

2019-07-30 14:13:14 UTC  

or maybe the distance is the same but the star is smaller but brighter

2019-07-30 14:13:28 UTC  

how do you decide that

2019-07-30 14:13:36 UTC  

@SAM101907 Please explain how the Polaris stars that are 323 lightyears away are showing up at the same location every day? That wouldn't make any sense on a globe earth, please take a minute and imagine it in your head.

2019-07-30 14:13:48 UTC  

@anon415454+4646 they measure the light waves coming from it. The more redshifted it is, the further away it is.

2019-07-30 14:14:48 UTC  

@rivenator12113 I honestly don’t see the issue. It’s 323 light years away and relatively stationary, why does it need to be going faster?

2019-07-30 14:15:00 UTC  

how do you know that the star doesnt just emit red light?

2019-07-30 14:15:24 UTC  

light is wave and only wave no particle btw

2019-07-30 14:15:30 UTC  

@SAM101907 Imagine you have 3 balls, 1 is the sun 2 is the earth and the 3rd is the polaris stars. the polaris stars are 323 light years away. The earth revolves around the sun. How can the polaris star show up at the same location everyday? I tried to make it as simple for you

2019-07-30 14:15:52 UTC  

@anon415454+4646 Spectrograph. If they can tell what is fusing in the start, they know what colour they should see.

2019-07-30 14:16:13 UTC  

"Imagine you have 3 balls" than you would have three times more balls than hitler had 😄

2019-07-30 14:16:25 UTC  

@SAM101907 Ah you see, there's where your argument become invalid. If it is relatively stationery, we shouldn't be able to see it at the same location every day

2019-07-30 14:16:33 UTC  

@rivenator12113 Again, there’s no issue here. It’s behaving like it should.

2019-07-30 14:16:46 UTC  

Then your argument is invalid

2019-07-30 14:16:49 UTC  

Why should we?

2019-07-30 14:17:03 UTC  

@SAM101907 how do they know what it is fueling it from the start?

2019-07-30 14:17:13 UTC  

We shouldn't be able to see it at the same location every day if it is relatively stationery and if it's 323 light years away

2019-07-30 14:17:16 UTC  

thats a circle thinking

2019-07-30 14:17:18 UTC  

@anon415454+4646 Spectrograph

2019-07-30 14:18:01 UTC  

@SAM101907 bro please, have you went to college? you should be able to make 3 premises and a conclusion, but your argument will still be invalid

2019-07-30 14:18:28 UTC  

ignore the first part, very rude of me

2019-07-30 14:18:54 UTC  

@rivenator12113 Picture this. If you were swinging next to a boat, and it moved ten feet in front of you left to right, it’s quite noticeable. Now have that same boat about 4 miles away and move the same distance, it will be hardly noticeable.

2019-07-30 14:19:15 UTC  

Swimming*

2019-07-30 14:19:35 UTC  

so many comments on this channel, cant find my previous message T_T