Message from @alois

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2020-11-05 17:53:04 UTC  

Ye?

2020-11-05 17:54:05 UTC  

As technology advances, more environmentally friendly products will be created, then gradually they will become more wide spread among the public

2020-11-05 17:54:26 UTC  

Also the type of Capitalism I want is literally working in Lichentinestine

2020-11-05 17:54:36 UTC  

Socdem?

2020-11-05 17:55:00 UTC  

Lichentinestine is Minarchist

2020-11-05 17:55:31 UTC  

And has said any citizen may create a new nation if they disagree with the nation’s monarchy

2020-11-05 17:56:33 UTC  

We don’t have time for that. Capitalism is not going to be able to reduce carbon emissions fast enough to avert the most significant effects. As long as there’s oil and gas in ground people are gonna wanna take it out and burn it. And car manufacturers know in current economy they can still make tons of money selling less efficient cheaper to produce cars. Manufacturers are gonna hop onto renewables unless they can see an immediate profit incentive or are forced to.

2020-11-05 17:56:34 UTC  

Anyone ever just, create a new nation?

2020-11-05 17:56:54 UTC  

Manufacturers aren’t*

2020-11-05 17:56:56 UTC  

Yeah

2020-11-05 17:57:23 UTC  

But most people in Lichenstine are happy so they don’t really care

2020-11-05 17:58:02 UTC  

Also your wrong, because as it’s been proven, more environmentally friendly products are a lot more profitable, and keeps customer satisfaction high.

2020-11-05 17:58:33 UTC  

I’m not contesting the quality of the products

2020-11-05 17:58:44 UTC  

Manufacturing is a whole other thing

2020-11-05 17:58:48 UTC  

And bottom line is

2020-11-05 18:00:06 UTC  

If we don’t force them to stop eventually, businesses will 100% keep extracting oil and gas and burning it until we’ve used up all the oil. If that happens, the climate is already kinda fucked. There is no profit incentive for choosing to keep it in the ground

2020-11-05 18:00:27 UTC  

Not really

2020-11-05 18:00:34 UTC  

Oil prices are dropping

2020-11-05 18:00:45 UTC  

It’s not becoming economically viable anymore

2020-11-05 18:01:04 UTC  

Nuclear Energy is the future, and synthetic oil is the future

2020-11-05 18:01:25 UTC  

Oil is dropping bc of the temporary decrease in demand due to pandemic and bc of price wars between Russia and the uae

2020-11-05 18:05:26 UTC  

I just don’t buy your gonna get people to voluntarily stop selling oil and gas bc it’s not good long term planting

2020-11-05 18:05:41 UTC  

Obviously that wouldn’t be the reason

2020-11-05 18:05:52 UTC  

I mean state force isn’t the way either

2020-11-05 18:06:25 UTC  

Tell that to all of Eastern Europe

2020-11-05 18:06:35 UTC  

Why?

2020-11-05 18:06:43 UTC  

Western *

2020-11-05 18:06:51 UTC  

Bc those policies are in place there

2020-11-05 18:06:52 UTC  

Ah makes more sense

2020-11-05 18:07:10 UTC  

Gas and gas cars are taxed into oblivion

2020-11-05 18:07:19 UTC  

It’s so stupid

2020-11-05 18:07:23 UTC  

Taxation🤮

2020-11-05 18:07:23 UTC  

Something like 70% of new cars bought in Northern Europe are hybrids

2020-11-05 18:07:25 UTC  

So it works

2020-11-05 18:07:59 UTC  

Well if it’s between taxation and every coastline city on earth being destroyed by flooding, I’m opening my wallet to Uncle Sam

2020-11-05 18:08:09 UTC  

I’m not

2020-11-05 18:08:35 UTC  

You should move to Barbados

2020-11-05 18:08:49 UTC  

Okay?

2020-11-05 18:09:15 UTC  

Not in like “ if you don’t like America you can move” kinda way

2020-11-05 18:09:30 UTC  

I just think their tax policy would be amenable to your Philosophy

2020-11-05 18:09:46 UTC  

Probably not