Message from @alois
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Ye?
As technology advances, more environmentally friendly products will be created, then gradually they will become more wide spread among the public
Also the type of Capitalism I want is literally working in Lichentinestine
Socdem?
Lichentinestine is Minarchist
And has said any citizen may create a new nation if they disagree with the nation’s monarchy
We don’t have time for that. Capitalism is not going to be able to reduce carbon emissions fast enough to avert the most significant effects. As long as there’s oil and gas in ground people are gonna wanna take it out and burn it. And car manufacturers know in current economy they can still make tons of money selling less efficient cheaper to produce cars. Manufacturers are gonna hop onto renewables unless they can see an immediate profit incentive or are forced to.
Anyone ever just, create a new nation?
Manufacturers aren’t*
Yeah
But most people in Lichenstine are happy so they don’t really care
Also your wrong, because as it’s been proven, more environmentally friendly products are a lot more profitable, and keeps customer satisfaction high.
I’m not contesting the quality of the products
Manufacturing is a whole other thing
And bottom line is
If we don’t force them to stop eventually, businesses will 100% keep extracting oil and gas and burning it until we’ve used up all the oil. If that happens, the climate is already kinda fucked. There is no profit incentive for choosing to keep it in the ground
Not really
Oil prices are dropping
It’s not becoming economically viable anymore
Nuclear Energy is the future, and synthetic oil is the future
Oil is dropping bc of the temporary decrease in demand due to pandemic and bc of price wars between Russia and the uae
I just don’t buy your gonna get people to voluntarily stop selling oil and gas bc it’s not good long term planting
Obviously that wouldn’t be the reason
I mean state force isn’t the way either
Tell that to all of Eastern Europe
Why?
Western *
Bc those policies are in place there
Ah makes more sense
Gas and gas cars are taxed into oblivion
It’s so stupid
Taxation🤮
Something like 70% of new cars bought in Northern Europe are hybrids
So it works
Well if it’s between taxation and every coastline city on earth being destroyed by flooding, I’m opening my wallet to Uncle Sam
I’m not
You should move to Barbados
Okay?
Not in like “ if you don’t like America you can move” kinda way
I just think their tax policy would be amenable to your Philosophy
Probably not