Message from @icedOJ

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2020-11-09 18:48:08 UTC  

I felt I didn't make this clear enough. Communism and socialism should be treated like nazism.

2020-11-09 18:48:23 UTC  

how so

2020-11-09 18:48:44 UTC  

Mass genocides, gulags, poverty, the death toll

2020-11-09 18:48:57 UTC  

Starvation as well

2020-11-09 18:49:05 UTC  

That's not too bad....right?

2020-11-09 18:49:15 UTC  

and that isn't happening under capitalism?

2020-11-09 18:49:30 UTC  

oh yeah! of course we have gulags!!

2020-11-09 18:49:35 UTC  

and genocides!!

2020-11-09 18:49:44 UTC  

gulags no, because bad optics

2020-11-09 18:49:54 UTC  

but genocides capitalism has most definitely done

2020-11-09 18:50:04 UTC  

*nestle company has entered the chat*

2020-11-09 18:50:34 UTC  

The only genocides I could find were under marxist titles of books.

2020-11-09 18:50:40 UTC  

What’s happening in general

2020-11-09 18:50:59 UTC  

bots

2020-11-09 18:51:01 UTC  

again probably

2020-11-09 18:52:26 UTC  

I bring this debate up a lot, mostly because it's still being treated normally. Would y'all consider transgenderism a mental disorder?

2020-11-09 18:53:50 UTC  

Not necessarily. It's not a natural phenomena as far as I'm concerned, and I am aware that some would treat it as a mental disorder, but it is not to me.

2020-11-09 18:54:06 UTC  

smells like bait, but I'll bite

2020-11-09 18:54:10 UTC  

bait?

2020-11-09 18:54:13 UTC  

wym

2020-11-09 18:54:31 UTC  

you bring up a controversial topic out of nowhere

2020-11-09 18:54:41 UTC  

that is completely unrelated to the current conversation

2020-11-09 18:54:48 UTC  

Should we move it to <#773892356322754600> ?

2020-11-09 18:54:57 UTC  

nah, it's fine

2020-11-09 18:54:59 UTC  

mk

2020-11-09 18:55:13 UTC  

so mental disorder in what context

2020-11-09 18:55:14 UTC  

medical?

2020-11-09 18:57:14 UTC  

Mental. The suicide rates are so incredibly high, they want to make changes to their bodies that are so drastic, (binders, pills, surgery) It was already considered a mental disorder by the WHO until 2019, and if you actually get to talk to some trans people, they usually don't seem very mentally stable. (at least from what i've expirienced)

2020-11-09 18:58:00 UTC  

so you're talking about it from a medical perspective

2020-11-09 18:58:24 UTC  

Depends what you would consider a medical perspective.

2020-11-09 18:58:29 UTC  

that last part is analogous, so i hope you understand why im choosing to annoy it

2020-11-09 18:58:38 UTC  

because ive only had positive experiences with trans people

2020-11-09 18:58:49 UTC  

but im not going to bring that up as an argument

2020-11-09 18:59:05 UTC  

Okay, then why don't we focus on every other point I made.

2020-11-09 18:59:06 UTC  

> Depends what you would consider a medical perspective.
@HyooNoot you mention the WHO, so it sounds like you're going for medical

2020-11-09 18:59:48 UTC  

Mental would be thinking you're another gender, medical would be wanting to have surgery or changing your body.

2020-11-09 18:59:55 UTC  

oh wait sorry

2020-11-09 19:00:11 UTC  

I meant are you arguing from a medical perspective

2020-11-09 19:00:23 UTC  

the framing

2020-11-09 19:00:31 UTC  

not the type of argument

2020-11-09 19:00:48 UTC  

so transgenderism was categorized as a disorder in the DSM-4