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2019-08-21 03:45:33 UTC  

I would have to say yes

2019-08-21 03:45:41 UTC  

so it could all be due to pressure and not density

2019-08-21 03:45:56 UTC  

need an experiment with a proper IV

2019-08-21 03:46:08 UTC  

right now you don't have one to support your case

2019-08-21 03:46:13 UTC  

gases are a pain the ass and are still modelled

2019-08-21 03:46:41 UTC  

You're dealing with trillions of gas particles bouncing around in random directions and the temperature dictates their velocity

2019-08-21 03:46:52 UTC  

according to the KMT of gases

2019-08-21 03:47:07 UTC  

Brownian motion, quite right

2019-08-21 03:47:38 UTC  

Kinetic Molecular Theory

2019-08-21 03:47:49 UTC  

so this experiment suggests the pressure gradient exists in our atmosphere due to acceleration

2019-08-21 03:48:51 UTC  

There's also a temperature gradient

2019-08-21 03:49:08 UTC  

ya but temperature gradients don't cause a pressure gradient, in a contained volume of gas

2019-08-21 03:49:10 UTC  

A temperature gradient is NOT present in the car/balloon example however

2019-08-21 03:49:13 UTC  

WRONG,

2019-08-21 03:49:21 UTC  

no sorry that would violate the 2nd law of thermo

2019-08-21 03:49:22 UTC  

I freeze air, the pressure drops to zero

2019-08-21 03:49:25 UTC  

No it doesn't

2019-08-21 03:49:37 UTC  

kinetic energy of the gas is entirely dependent on temperature

2019-08-21 03:49:41 UTC  

freezing air is not a temperature GRADIENT

2019-08-21 03:49:55 UTC  

ya but those gas molecules are not prevented from mixing with all other molecules in the volume

2019-08-21 03:50:11 UTC  

Temperature decreases with elevation so does pressure.
We can easily experimentally prove that pressure is dependent on temperature.

2019-08-21 03:50:16 UTC  

yes that's true

2019-08-21 03:50:20 UTC  

but that's not the same as a temperature gradient

2019-08-21 03:50:25 UTC  

take a vessel of air

2019-08-21 03:50:29 UTC  

heat the whole thing

2019-08-21 03:50:30 UTC  

pressure goes up

2019-08-21 03:50:41 UTC  

There's a temperature gradient, there's a pressure gradient.

2019-08-21 03:50:43 UTC  

heat just the bottom, pressure goes up evenly throughout it, just not as much as if you heat the whole thing

2019-08-21 03:50:48 UTC  

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2019-08-21 03:50:57 UTC  

no that wouldn't happen, b/c the gas molecules are free to mix and equalize pressure

2019-08-21 03:51:07 UTC  

you can't have a pressure difference without a barrier between them

2019-08-21 03:51:13 UTC  

same argument you make about earth's atmosphere

2019-08-21 03:51:19 UTC  

atmo WHAT?

2019-08-21 03:51:19 UTC  

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2019-08-21 03:51:26 UTC  

The fuck did you just say?

2019-08-21 03:51:31 UTC  

🍿

2019-08-21 03:51:35 UTC  

atmo- suurrrfffeeeeaarr

2019-08-21 03:51:39 UTC  

The sky is flat as fuck

2019-08-21 03:51:47 UTC  

back tot the topic

2019-08-21 03:51:58 UTC  

No stop putting words in my mouth

2019-08-21 03:51:59 UTC  

tell me why you think you can get a pressure gradient, in one container of gas