nobody can

it doesnt work

Then how can you prove that they can't happen?

If nobody tried then how can you know it won't work?

i already explained why, youre just going in circles with this

Anyways, let me just get to the point I wanted to make from the beginning.

You claim that the creation theory is correct because of the law of casualty.

But, that law of casualty can apply to an infinity of already created or theories that no one has thought of yet.

Who knows, maybe no one has thought of the ture theory yet.

Cause and effect

If it isnt that

Do you believe something came out of nothing? (Big bang theory)

I hope you realize that there aren't just those two theories.

And you cant just say there is no nothingness, because that wouldnt be the big bang theory

There could be a heck of a lot more theories.

Maybe some we didn't think of yet.

its impossible for there to be nonexistence outside of a blackhole

And you aren't listening to me anymore.

oneof us isnt, thats for sure

The point is that cause and effect dosen't support just the creation theory.

It can apply to a massive number of other theories.

Even theories that don't exist yet.

the idea of there being a creator in the first place is to say that there is a cause in the first place

And there being a cause in the first place applies to a lot of other things.

I ate lunch cause I was hungry.

I punched that buff guy cause I was drunk.

The black hole was created because a star died.

now youre playing games with words, this debate was over a while ago

Cause and effect applies to other theories, not just the creation one.

it doesnt apply to nonexistence, because that doesnt exist and cant exist

How many times must I repeat myself.

you dont need to, im done here

This isn't a situation of "it's either a creator or the big bang".

There are a lot of OTHER possibilities.

like what

please tell me

As I said, there could be theories that we didn't think about yet.

You guys need to get rid of this "you are either with us or against us" kind of mentality.

one of us does for sure

Simulation earth?

youre the only one pushing that