is there a link?

No but I'm sure if you ask Travis he'll gladly spell it out. I think he hypothesizes that the choice that you make will ultimately be the one that results in the most pleasure.

hmm, i wouldnt like to say what i think unless i know more about what he hypothesizes

because from what you said, one could easily make the counter-argument that people make choices that lead to miserable dead ends all the time.

It would seem that way at least a lot of the time

But I would argue that a moral foundation could counter the pleasure drive

again, I dont know the specifics of his hypothesis, but if its just as simple as you laid it out, then certainly that would be an argument.

I'm sure it is more than that but that is the basic principle as far as I can tell

Ther did no decision you can make that couldn’t be correctly categorized as an effect of causes that occurred previously in your life

But you don't think that the building up of a strong moral foundation could counter the effect of those occurrences?

Okay let’s go through this then

A strong moral foundation is just a schema for decision making

At even causes one to build up such a foundation? Your parents, society, natural temperament aka outside causes

So you don't believe an immoral person can reach a point in his/her life and choose at that point to become a moral person?

You could

But that would happen due to some shift in outside circumstance

One sees the error in their ways. But they see it for a reason. And they have to see it to change. Outside cause

And it would be inevitable then that the change would happen?

Given every other cause and effect that has occurred throughout all time? Yes

One Question to All..

Science, The Perfect Execution of It. Could it be Done be a Program, Computer program, Without Subjectivity ?

Could Science which Essentially is a Process be Compressed to a Formula ?

I am Interested how this Formula For Each of you would look like...

Could it be Automated if So.

Theoretically yes. But a computer couldn’t run all the experiments we can. It takes too much creativity to set up experiments and generate hypotheses

So You Say it takes Creativity to Exercise Science ?

I think it takes creativity and imagination to come up with the initial hypothesis before you test it with science.

It takes some science to generate hypotheses

Creativity*

Would You Describe Creativity as the Same MoveMent as Evolution ? Trial and Error ?

If not Please Describe what is Could Be...

It’s definitely part of the process we use to evolve our understanding of everything. But I wouldn’t necessarily call it the same thing as evolution. Evolution is brought about by random genetic errors that happen to be beneficial.

What is Wrong calling Creativity, Random Errors which by Re-Consideration Are more Useful, Better Working maybe even More "Beautiful" options then before ?

Not to sound like Jordan Peterson, but that depends on what you mean by Error. I wouldn’t consider thinking about something with a different perspective an error. Although I can see how it could seem as divergent from normal analytical thinking.

Just like the Many Genetic "Errors" that Brought us were We are.

The genetic errors were a transcription mistake, so it’s using the literal definition of error. These errors can also be detrimental and make something less likely to survive or even cause cancers. With science, if you have a bad hypothesis, that SHOULD get weeded out by the scientific method and not produce any bad results, although there are many cases of people using shitty science to justify their hypotheses

All I know is "she blinded me with science".

My Mistake 🙂

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I Believe in My Mistakes Trust in The Scientific Method...

Use the scientific method on the scientific method