Message from @JPMcGlone
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I know you can't believe it. Me 5 years ago wouldn't either, which sounds exactly like the kind of things Christians would say to me and I hated them for it. Condescending pricks đ
For me it's all predicated on the belief and understanding that there is ONE Truth (we all share it) and that lying about that truth is bad.
The rest followed, after many years of a meetup i hosted around Jordan Peterson's work, of all people. He's not even a Christian, but he certainly turned me toward Christ
It basically became a general philosophy meet. Twice a week
There was one guy who was a Christian there, the rest were atheists, or some sort of "spiritual" like buddhist. I argued with all of them
The Christian never convinced me, he only showed me how what I was saying was already covered in the bible. I thought I was discovering aspects of reality that were unaccounted for. Nope.
Weâre like the opposite lol I went to a Christian school for 8 years and was totally devoted now Iâm an absolute atheist non believer
In Christian terms, the Holy Spirit was working in me. In more secular terms, my drive for Truth led me there. You need to ask yourself if you're actually seeking Truth or not. People use this term "my truth" -- i never cared about my truth. If anything, I wanted MY TRUTH to be aligned with THE TRUTH
If you believe there is a "The Truth" -- then please do what you can to make your truth align with it. I'm confident that will lead you to what I and many call Christ
Read the Bible and try to salvage all the Truth from it you can. Treat everything like that, and a pattern will emerge
And yea, T2, I was catholic before I was atheist
I found Christ half way through age 31 (I'm 32 now) so, I'm young in it
What do you mean by âtruthâ
A truth about the universe that I am interested in is how did life start. And every claim the Bible makes about that has been proven wrong.
Yea that. And no it hasnât been âproven wrongâ itâs been read like claims, instead of like stories.
Letâs not conflate topics here
Stick to Truth
Do you believe one truth governs all of this universe?
No
Everything could be wrong
If you believe so
Science doesnât work in truths
It has theoryâs
Thatâs just how science works itâs not my beliefs
Everything is open to be disproven
Thatâs the difference
Theories of truth
Truth claims. Claims of truth
Truth is the foundation of all claims and theories
Otherwise youâd have nothing to theorize and make claims about lol
A theory starts with a hypothesis
A hypothesis is the foundation
Thatâs important
A hypothesis about reality
A hypothesis of what the truth is or isnât
Some hypothesis canât be measured without acting them out
Actually all have to be enacted in some way
Something that is true is something that is absolute correct?
Youâre right JP
Yes. Truth is the highest standard
True things measure up to the truth