Message from @BobbyMack

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2020-10-01 15:18:38 UTC  

But there are rare things nobody wants or needs, and there are unrare things that everybody wants or needs.

Thankfully water and air arent scarce!

2020-10-01 15:19:03 UTC  

Commodification is artificial scarcity. Well, a recent example is being in a submarine.

2020-10-01 15:19:05 UTC  

Marx is a child who feels entitled to everyone else’s stuff 😛 I don’t care what Marx says, because he’ll have to kill me to accomplish it

2020-10-01 15:19:26 UTC  

He's not around to defend himself, let's not name call.

2020-10-01 15:19:32 UTC  

It is interesting though

2020-10-01 15:19:42 UTC  

Marx was basically a NEET his entire life

2020-10-01 15:19:58 UTC  

r/K selection theory in play. Scarcity and abundance, and how different creatures (and people) select from it

2020-10-01 15:20:47 UTC  

> Marx was basically a NEET his entire life
@Lemele Blatantly false.

2020-10-01 15:21:09 UTC  

When they say “saving money” and “working hard” are “white people” things, they aren’t completely wrong.

If your ancestors survived winters in the mountains, those who couldn’t do those things did not get to reproduce.

If your ancestors lived on the equator, they didn’t have winters to plan for. Totally different survival strategy!

2020-10-01 15:21:57 UTC  

So, although I agree scarcity plays a role in behavior, I don’t think it relates to wealth in the way that seems to be implied.

2020-10-01 15:22:30 UTC  

But maybe there’s something there.

You can generate wealth in a environment of abundance too. The incentive structure just may not be there.

2020-10-01 15:22:42 UTC  

Where are the great cities on the equator? :/

2020-10-01 15:23:26 UTC  

I just googled it, and I now want to visit Quito, Ecuador

2020-10-01 15:30:05 UTC  

There are tons of great cities near the equator. But it is an interesting assertion that I'll frame as a question.

Do early man survival tendencies extend to modern financial planning?
Or maybe they just don't teach good financial planning in poor schools?

2020-10-01 15:30:47 UTC  

If behaviors can be selected for, absolutely.

2020-10-01 15:31:12 UTC  

Genetics and behavior are not disconnected

2020-10-01 15:31:42 UTC  

Men and women present very differently both physically and behaviorally, so why wouldn’t people with vastly different, if clustered, genetics?

2020-10-01 15:32:09 UTC  

they don't teach good financial planning in american school, period

2020-10-01 15:32:15 UTC  

Having different body parts (or missing body parts) will also influence behavior. We shouldn’t assume that behavior is independent of our genetics, because all the evidence points otherwise

2020-10-01 15:32:20 UTC  

I framed it as a question to avoid making assertions that I don't know.

2020-10-01 15:32:28 UTC  

inb4 "my school did"

2020-10-01 15:32:37 UTC  

Parents in poor areas probably don't have the best financial advice to pass down to their kids

2020-10-01 15:32:40 UTC  

Yea but you can teach whatever you want, some people just won’t care or be interested in it, they will prefer other survival strategies

2020-10-01 15:33:06 UTC  

Knowledge and practice are also entirely different

2020-10-01 15:33:23 UTC  

Some people would prefer to be taken care of. Others will prefer to take care of themselves. Some are social, some aren’t. We are very different, behavioral, at an individual level AND we are different, behaviorally, at a cultural level.

2020-10-01 15:33:30 UTC  

It's hard to distinguish nature from nurture without genetic research and omniscient type of nurture records.

2020-10-01 15:33:38 UTC  

You can know all the same things and still behave very differently

2020-10-01 15:34:00 UTC  

True, but why is the question here.

2020-10-01 15:34:14 UTC  

> It's hard to distinguish nature from nurture without genetic research and omniscient type of nurture records.
@Malachi

agreed, which is why the most sensible thing to say is that it is probably some combination of both

2020-10-01 15:34:48 UTC  

There are 3 aspects: nature, nurture and choice. And each person, let alone each culture, have different natures, environments (nurtures), and make different choices. These all influence each other, which is rather awesome! This is why I optimize for freedom, with the stipulation of .. we can defend life when it is infringed on

2020-10-01 15:35:17 UTC  

I'm doing my business 300 homework currently. The prof wants us to read section of a a book called "I Will Make You Rich." The first section I read is a total lie. it's so annoying.

2020-10-01 15:35:34 UTC  

pyramid scheme? xD

2020-10-01 15:35:39 UTC  

I’m much more ok with different behavioral strategies being tried than my leftist counterparts seem to be, yet I care much more about boundaries and the freedom to say no than they do.

We are different

2020-10-01 15:36:06 UTC  

> pyramid scheme? xD
@drenath High energy financial planning guru. It's the worst sort of BS.

2020-10-01 15:36:06 UTC  

Lol nobody who writes a self help book starts the book with “well, see, first I read a self help book”

I’d love to see that

2020-10-01 15:37:06 UTC  

> @drenath High energy financial planning guru. It's the worst sort of BS.
@Malachi A lot to learn from bad ideas. Could be that the teacher is trying to identify who will call BS on it

2020-10-01 15:39:59 UTC  

I'm sure the book is fine and well intentioned. It's just not my style.

2020-10-01 17:05:04 UTC  

How is it wrong? What are his tenets to being rich?

2020-10-01 17:08:30 UTC  

It was an example that he used that was incorrect. Not the subject matter itself.

2020-10-01 17:08:52 UTC  

I’d have to read the book to make any sort of comment there

2020-10-01 17:09:01 UTC  

Or perhaps you can share the excerpt