Message from @brucebruce

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2020-10-02 15:58:36 UTC  

Do you support him?

2020-10-02 15:58:39 UTC  

His influence over the country makes it a responsibility on him to deliver accurate information

2020-10-02 15:58:46 UTC  

I'm not sure what "support" means. I didn't vote for him.

2020-10-02 15:59:30 UTC  

Side question, do you think the left extreme is gonna be able to influence policy if Biden is voted? @Katelyn @drenath

2020-10-02 15:59:46 UTC  

People are saying he’s a sort of vessel

2020-10-02 16:00:03 UTC  

He's a vessel for Kamala Harris. Cuz I'm betting he gets 25thd in the first year.

2020-10-02 16:00:35 UTC  

Personally no. It sort of seems like the Trump was thinking Sanders was going to win and didn't bother to change his oppo prep. It doesn't seem like a real argument to me - it seems like they just have much else to criticize about Biden because he has such a great reputation for being moderate and working acrosss the isle.

2020-10-02 16:00:43 UTC  

Is there any evidence to suggest this?

2020-10-02 16:01:08 UTC  

I mean, if this is even what a majority of Democrats wanted, why Biden overwhelmingly win the primaries, especially after all the other moderate candidates dropped out?

2020-10-02 16:01:08 UTC  

A big standout was him not calling out the violence until it started to effect his campaign

2020-10-02 16:02:19 UTC  

He is an somewhat awkward situation with calling out violence, and I wish he would do it more too. But leftists I know really hate both Biden and Harris. I'm not sure what level of organization you think this is happening on, but leftists certainly aren't aware of that plan.

2020-10-02 16:03:14 UTC  

Do you agree with the “anything but trump” or “well do anything to vote him out” mentality? @Katelyn

2020-10-02 16:04:56 UTC  

Sort of. It seems to be mixed amongst folks on the far left. There's some that are "Bernie or Busters" and others who are saying that they're willing to bite the bullet and unethusiastically vote for Biden because they see Trump as actively dangerous to out democracy (and I agree with them on that).

2020-10-02 16:05:38 UTC  

FWIW, I think Biden does a much better job an uneviocably denouncing violence on the left, compared to Trump who fumbles with denouncing the Proud Boys and other right wint millitia groups. And I can understand why he isn't really aiming to launch in to talking about violence when an overwhelming majority of those protests were peaceful and for an important cause. Drawing attention to a few bad actors that are inevitable with protests on that large of a scale seems like it would be very harmful to the movement without much benefit.

2020-10-02 16:06:12 UTC  

Also, the violence on right vs left are not equivalent. I'm not familiar with any left wing millitia groups who are organized, collecting weapons, and actively talking about "race wars", "succession", etc.

2020-10-02 16:06:22 UTC  

Proud Boys are not right wing militia. Also you say right wing militia like it's a bad thing.

2020-10-02 16:06:23 UTC  

sorry

2020-10-02 16:06:36 UTC  

They're certainly contributing to violence, no?

2020-10-02 16:06:43 UTC  

no

2020-10-02 16:06:45 UTC  

they're responding

2020-10-02 16:06:52 UTC  

passivism is not contribution

2020-10-02 16:07:02 UTC  

someone has to stand the line

2020-10-02 16:07:03 UTC  

you're delusional to think the cops can do anything at all

2020-10-02 16:07:27 UTC  

Do you think that vilgilante citizens need to take it into their own hands?

2020-10-02 16:07:31 UTC  

not to mention the fact that the cops are being targeted as the problem in the very beginning

2020-10-02 16:07:33 UTC  

what are cops?

2020-10-02 16:07:34 UTC  

citizens?

2020-10-02 16:07:37 UTC  

what is government?

2020-10-02 16:07:38 UTC  

people?

2020-10-02 16:07:56 UTC  

You and I might be on too different planes of reality to really have a constructive discussion here.

2020-10-02 16:08:01 UTC  

you like to send people to do your dirty work and you can keep your keyboard typing hands clean?

2020-10-02 16:08:05 UTC  

someone has to take some sort of a stand

2020-10-02 16:08:24 UTC  

rick moranis 67yr old dude was just knocked out on the street standing by himself in central park

2020-10-02 16:08:38 UTC  

Can you be more specific about left wing militia groups that are organized and arming themselves in the same way that right wing ones are?

2020-10-02 16:09:09 UTC  

left wing doesn't have a militia, they have an angry mob, headed or not.

2020-10-02 16:09:11 UTC  

it can not stand

2020-10-02 16:09:18 UTC  

and must be met with opposition

2020-10-02 16:09:42 UTC  

and currently the opposition in democrat run cities is doing nothing

2020-10-02 16:09:58 UTC  

Do you think that those are similar threats? For example, the FBI listed right wing militia groups as a potential threat to national security, but they did not list any leftist "groups" like antifa. Do you agree?

2020-10-02 16:10:24 UTC  

nowhere close. the death toll from left-type riot activity is probably in the triple digits. right wing, one?