It hurts thats all you need

So a parent is never allowed to cause their child any pain for any reason

The umbilicus doesn’t have pain receptors that lead to the child as far as I know, otherwise every time they kick it in the womb they’d be like “ouchies”

What about vaccine shots?

Vaccines are not an amputation

I’m referring specifically to wardawgs argument about causing pain

Robert Baker estimated 229 deaths per year from circumcision in the United States. Bollinger estimated that approximately 119 infant boys die from circumcision-related each year in the U.S. (1.3% of all male neonatal deaths from all causes). There are several case reports of death in the medical literature.

But that is due to botched surgeries right? Not procedures successfully carried out right?

I’m mostly concerned about STD and hygiene stuff

But is potentially killing your child worth the benefits we aren’t sure even exist?

You potentially kill ur child whenever u decide to take an airplane ride

I thought I just said there were some benefits?

Any study showing benefits is subject to both consideration and scrutiny, there are also those that show no benefits. That’s why we cannot be certain.

Do we know there are health downsides to a successfully executed circumcision?

That’s a bit of a trick question. If we automatically assume it was “successful” we are assuming no mistakes were made, but a common problem of all circumcisions for one is sexual dullness.

Okay. That’s a downside

Do we know there are good sides to a botched circumcision?

?

See how the reverse seems absurd

Is **SUPER** very NSFW content allowed here?

\*since you're talking about botches and "if it's worth the risk"

I realize botches are bad

I can look it up myself

I don't know if you can find this particular image anymore...

I’m saying that just because botches exist doesn’t mean that the entire thing should be thrown out

I’m playing devils advocate rn

@Buddha there aren’t any

Ah, so I don't need to go full bulldog mode on ya then...lol

Yeah I lean to your side. But before I start arguing for anything, I try to argue for the opposite

Can’t we all just touch tips and get along?

Um

No

For the morbidly curious..

*No more links

Fine we don’t have to get along

That’s pornography

No dude just the first bit

Yikes

No one said yes to that

Y’all are racist

If it's pornography, why is it okay to do it to infants?

What???

Racist?