Message from @ThePangburn

Discord ID: 756974859845763164


2020-09-19 02:20:36 UTC  

I’m not arguing against the point of the film. I quite liked it. Parents don’t know what their kids are doing online. Overly traditional/religious families can be stifling and alienating. But the kid shouldn’t go full twerk culture either. I like the message

2020-09-19 02:21:09 UTC  

I appreciate cuties drawing attention to the issue

2020-09-19 02:21:12 UTC  

@Delta I'm glad I'm not the only one haha

2020-09-19 02:21:20 UTC  

But I just looked up the actual letter of law

2020-09-19 02:21:47 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735742274100789268/756701543746764921/image0.jpg

2020-09-19 02:21:49 UTC  

Depicting a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct is illegal. Period.

2020-09-19 02:22:30 UTC  

It is abundantly clear that the dancing is supposed to be sexually suggestive. I’m sure the director would agree. The point of the movies is that depicting the fallout of the sexualizing of children

2020-09-19 02:23:58 UTC  

And honestly if you watched that movie and did not feel like it was shot and delivered in a sexually explicit way I don’t know if we watched the same movie. An 11 year old literally bared her chest to a crowd. The group is a twerking group. Not hip hop or anything, actually focused around twerking

2020-09-19 02:24:38 UTC  

The dancing is sexually suggestive but that's different than "sexually explicit." I would classify sexually explicit as engaging in sexual acts, which they didn't do.

2020-09-19 02:25:21 UTC  

Okay Im pretty sure you can't read the picture which is my fault. i can quote

2020-09-19 02:26:21 UTC  

"Notably, the legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity. A picture of a naked child may constitute illegal child pornography if it is sufficiently sexually suggestive. Additionally, the age of consent for sexual activity in a given state is irrelevant; any depiction of a minor under 18 years of age engaging in sexually explicit conduct is illegal."

2020-09-19 02:27:12 UTC  

Again, she exposed herself to a crowd, it was meant to be sexually enticing in context of the movie, because that was the underlying motivation for most of the dance crews actions, because that how society conditioned them, because that was the point.

2020-09-19 02:31:11 UTC  

But here's some clarification on that definition:


"For purposes of subsection 8(B) [1] of this section, “sexually explicit conduct” means—
(i)graphic sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex, or lascivious simulated sexual intercourse where the genitals, breast, or pubic area of any person is exhibited;
(ii)graphic or lascivious simulated;
(I)bestiality;
(II)masturbation; or
(III)sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(iii)graphic or simulated lascivious exhibition of the anus, genitals, or pubic area of any person;"

2020-09-19 02:46:35 UTC  

I haven't seen it but I would assume if this movie could be considered sexually explicit and therefore illegal due to their age, the Netflix legal team would have stopped it. But that's only my assumption.

2020-09-19 02:46:58 UTC  

If they haven’t been sued, then I’d think so

2020-09-19 02:48:16 UTC  

Have they been sued?

2020-09-19 02:48:40 UTC  

I am not aware, I figured no because I haven’t seen a thousand headlines about it

2020-09-19 02:48:56 UTC  

Ahhh ok.

2020-09-19 04:53:30 UTC  

Some senatores havev sent a letter to the DOJ looking for investigation. So we'll see what happens

2020-09-19 20:27:50 UTC  

@everyone The first MAN HEALTH with Trav & Jer episode is about to drop! I will share it here. Please share this on your social media feeds and everywhere you possibly can to help it gain traction.