Message from @Haze

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2020-07-24 19:14:59 UTC  

@everyone it is artistic inspiration day! Starting at 4 or 5pm pacific!

2020-07-24 19:15:35 UTC  

@pangburn I set up my trailer for artistic inspiration day!

2020-07-24 19:16:05 UTC  

@pangburn I'll see you then

2020-07-24 19:16:17 UTC  

@ThePangburn heck yes!! I'm so excited!!

2020-07-24 19:17:05 UTC  

:)

2020-07-24 19:19:21 UTC  

Post the link and I'll share it @pangburn

2020-07-24 19:43:32 UTC  

Beer time

2020-07-24 19:45:57 UTC  

cheers!

2020-07-24 20:19:55 UTC  

Hallo

2020-07-24 20:21:55 UTC  

@Skillz hey Skillz

2020-07-24 20:23:53 UTC  

@Skillz are you a theist atheist anti-theist atheistic theist or theistic atheist?

2020-07-24 20:35:36 UTC  

Um

2020-07-24 20:36:22 UTC  

Whats the difference

2020-07-24 20:52:16 UTC  

I'm still confused about it myself

2020-07-24 21:07:17 UTC  

Off-topic, but I was watching the Slavoj Zizek debate with Peterson last night and he mentioned something interesting.

The moment when Jesus says, why did you abandon me father? In his final moments at the cross. Its like at that moment, god becomes an "atheist". That's really fascinating

2020-07-24 21:10:19 UTC  

yeah, you can even see peterson react to it interest and excitement. I think its fascinating way of looking at it. a lot can be said and exctracted from it.

2020-07-24 21:11:10 UTC  

Fascinating if Jesus was God. But not all Christians hold to that belief.

2020-07-24 21:14:13 UTC  

Yeah, and it would go back to what exactly do you mean by "God" and "belief"

2020-07-24 21:16:32 UTC  

Do you think Carl Jung was atheist?

(Peterson's views align with his I suppose)

2020-07-24 21:17:48 UTC  

By the modern definition yes

2020-07-24 21:17:55 UTC  

No, they both are not athiest, i dont think so.

2020-07-24 21:18:35 UTC  

But I supposed I am too though I'm a believer wholeheartedly

2020-07-24 21:19:16 UTC  

suppose

2020-07-24 21:19:30 UTC  

*

2020-07-24 21:20:40 UTC  

Well, in his famous interview, CJ said " I don't believe in God. I know"

2020-07-24 21:20:59 UTC  

i dont know in what context it was said

2020-07-24 21:21:30 UTC  

He was asked if he believes in God.

2020-07-24 21:21:46 UTC  

einstein said god doesnt play dice with the universe, he didnt believe in god.

2020-07-24 21:21:58 UTC  

During his time he would have been consider a gnostic christian

2020-07-24 21:22:05 UTC  

I dont know if they had defined god a certain way or if he was talking about a literal jesus as god

2020-07-24 21:22:14 UTC  

*considered

2020-07-24 21:22:45 UTC  

... Only my experience can be good or evil, but I know that the superior will is based upon a foundation which transcends human imagination. Since I know of my collision with a superior will in my own psychical system, I know of God, and if I should venture the illegitimate hypostasis of my image, I would say, of a God beyond good and evil, just as much dwelling in myself as everywhere else:

Deus est circulus cuius centrum est ubique, circumferentia vero nusquam. (God is a circle whose centre is everywhere, & circumference nowhere.)

2020-07-24 21:22:54 UTC  

- Carl Jung

2020-07-24 21:24:22 UTC  

I think he acknowledges an importance that is laced with a concept of god, maybe a metaphorical one.

2020-07-24 21:24:39 UTC  

i dont think he denies its existence or importance.

2020-07-24 21:26:21 UTC  

you require god, because logic is in a lot of instances is just not enough. You can't use logic to extract wisdom.

2020-07-24 21:26:28 UTC  

wisdom comes from stories and myths

2020-07-24 21:26:32 UTC  

I think I should study up on Jung. The quotes listed above describe my belief in God

2020-07-24 21:28:26 UTC  

they are distillations of thousands of years of knowledge that logic can't extract or unpack for each specific situation of being.

2020-07-24 21:41:02 UTC  

@everyone ask me anything in voice chat while I drive!