Message from @Jarlkage Productions

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2020-08-10 21:52:24 UTC  

@everyone if anyone else has questions for my Christian friend who 'hears from God' get them in! I'll be recording the video conversation!

2020-08-10 22:25:31 UTC  

@everyone we are live! https://youtu.be/1pjSee7mNyo

2020-08-11 01:19:17 UTC  

@everyone I'll be streaming my conversation with my former youth pastor into the voice chat! it will start in at about 9pm Eastern. Join the stream! I'll have the audio off but I'll be able to read your questions!

2020-08-11 01:40:11 UTC  

we are on in 5!

2020-08-11 01:49:21 UTC  

Sorry, I had to stop the stream. My laptop can't do it.

2020-08-11 02:56:43 UTC  

@ThePangburn I got permission to give this to you and you can upload it if you want!! He and I are gonna make it a weekly thing. Nobody had ever asked him why he thinks faith is a reliable way to get to truth.

2020-08-11 05:54:43 UTC  

@everyone as I struggle through advanced math.... Memories of the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Ay_iDRAbc

2020-08-11 06:50:40 UTC  
2020-08-11 08:29:00 UTC  

Both Video's tickles my Fancy in different ways... One thing... Does Brian Cox Wears Face Paint ? Or is it just Me ?

2020-08-11 08:30:07 UTC  

If He does not, that must be weird to have the appearance to wear make up if you do not...

2020-08-11 08:45:12 UTC  

@everyone Show Naz some love in the comments for being brave! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_osVxLUO5PQ

2020-08-11 16:05:35 UTC  

Love you, @James B

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733748197574312011/742775734237528145/ZomboMeme_11082020120513.jpg

2020-08-11 17:19:53 UTC  

Man you guys are funny

2020-08-11 17:39:09 UTC  

@James B there are assumptions made by science that aren't justified by science or even reason

2020-08-11 17:39:39 UTC  

> @James B there are assumptions made by science that aren't justified by science or even reason
@Jarlkage Productions wat

2020-08-11 17:41:39 UTC  

Science works by developing models, deriving predictions from them (if this model is accurate, what would we expect to observe, for example). If those predictions are met, that's evidence for the model, yada yada

2020-08-11 17:41:57 UTC  

But if you try to use science to justify science, that's circular...

2020-08-11 17:42:07 UTC  

And it's the way it is.

2020-08-11 17:42:09 UTC  

Lol

2020-08-11 17:42:47 UTC  

But it's the same for logic

2020-08-11 17:43:22 UTC  

Using science to justify science? You mean using science to learn about the universe?

2020-08-11 17:46:08 UTC  

How do you know science works, as in being a reliable way to learn about the universe? I accept science, but those are issues that you can't justify rationally with science...

2020-08-11 17:46:24 UTC  

I'm a fucking atheist btw. I like science, but it be the truth

2020-08-11 17:47:26 UTC  

What can't we not justify rationally with science?

2020-08-11 17:48:02 UTC  

The reliability of science itself

2020-08-11 17:48:19 UTC  

That's one example though

2020-08-11 17:48:22 UTC  

There's others

2020-08-11 17:48:38 UTC  

Give me another.

2020-08-11 17:49:35 UTC  

The laws of logic

2020-08-11 17:50:16 UTC  

How are science and logic incompatible?

2020-08-11 17:51:58 UTC  

I'm not saying they are. Science uses logic. It's that Naz is correct. There are these assumptions that science works with that are faith-based. Or maybe that's not what he meant... But there is faith involved in the process/method

2020-08-11 17:52:44 UTC  

They aren't faith based. Logic is self evident. That's different than faith.

2020-08-11 17:53:18 UTC  

So, how do you define faith? I use the definition of belief in the absence of reason

2020-08-11 17:53:56 UTC  

@Jarlkage Productions "There are these assumptions that science works with that are faith-based" yes that is correct

2020-08-11 17:54:23 UTC  

> @Jarlkage Productions "There are these assumptions that science works with that are faith-based" yes that is correct
@James B ugh. You two have at it.

2020-08-11 17:55:06 UTC  

@m.miller This is a conversation between you and @Jarlkage Productions

2020-08-11 17:55:20 UTC  

is there any reason to belive in god?

2020-08-11 17:55:31 UTC  

I'm not trashing science. I like science, but it ain't the only way of knowing

2020-08-11 17:56:08 UTC  

and if not why does this belife seem so concistent throughout time?

2020-08-11 17:56:24 UTC  

and i dont talk about physical prove