Message from @Delta
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What?
No I’m saying the study might not have been measuring what it thought it was measuring
It might have been measuring classism more than racism
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Delta you’re right
The study was intended to show a racial bias
But if you read the study completely, like you stated names like Jefferson and Washington were not discriminated against even when they were surnames of black people
And traditionally black surnames
first, those issues are definitely very interrelated. second, there might be some poor white boys named "Tyrone" but I expect they are much fewer and far between than black boys. It's not immediately obvious to me that the being named "tyrone" is at all corralled with being poor, however it is correlated with being black.
Squid can you link the study
I wanna take a look at it again
You’re missing my point completely
I don’t think you get what delta is saying
A name like Clyde or Kyle
for the study to truly have been measuring class and not race, you would need to demonstrate that there is a correlation between being poor and being named "tyrone" or the like
Would be associated with being a redneck presumably
I’m not making the claim. I don’t have to demonstrate anything
I’m poking holes in the claim of the study and yourself
it seemed to me that you were
I’m offering up a reasonable alternative
no, you made a claim that the methodology was faulty
I said I wasn’t sure the methodology wasn’t faulty
your alternative is only reasonable if you can demonstrate it
A name like Clyde or Kyle is basically white. Also associated with being poor or being a redneck.
He’s not giving an alternative
He’s saying how the study has nothing to do with race
It has to do with peoples name
I’d be curious to see if that may effect and employers decision
here is a link to it I believe
But we don’t have the poverty-control. So now I think we can’t conclude ether the study was measuring race or class bias
yes it does have to do with people
's names. And people's names have to do do with their culture and race
these are not completely independent category
Yeah
But race isn’t a culture
You could say the study is measuring how a culture is judged
but the studies controlled for applicants with equal qualificants
Like Tyrone is an urban name
The company might judge urban culture