but I will take your word for it that they are sterotypically black

i have met

I think your failing to understand my point

They are. It’s been documented

Ditto

just because there are exceptions to the rule, doesn't mean there isn'

t a rule

That would be true if there wasn’t another potential rule with less exceptions: poverty

ok, but did you read what I wrote about that being hardly any better?

Yes

black people are more likely to be named tyrone. black people are more likely to be in poverty. the black people named tyrone are more likely to be in the ghetto. Now anyone named tyrone (disproportionately black people) gets judged for the name because it is associated with poverty because \as a large contributing factor black people are disproportionately in property.

If we have bias against the impoverished that’s bad

and black people are more likely to be impoverished

which effects stereotypically black names

And White people makes Clyde or more likely to be impoverished too

Does that mean discriminations against Clyde is racist?

which effects all black people

But people aren’t biased towards the impoverished because of there race but because of there social class

The fact there happens to be a racial correlation with poverty doesn’t mean the discrimination was due to race

how do you know that @T2the2ndpowr You know it is based 0% on race or that people aren't using race a shortcut to infer poverty? How do you know that?

I don’t

My point is neither does the study

The conclusion that it’s race based discrimination isn’t solid

@squid I could ask you the same question but change the words around a bit

no, you really cannot

I don't think you all are understanding my position

Also: that study does not even come close to demonstrating systemic racism

@T2the2ndpowr show him

the only way the results of the study do not imply some level of systemic racism, is if the results are explained 100% by something else. This is fact

When I get off work I will

Um

No

I believe the results of the study are indicative of some level of systemic racism

But I’m banging my head against a wall evidently

Not systemic racism

Unconscious bias maybe

But those are different

we are now squabbling about how much

and apparently defintions

And that’s even assuming I’d agree with the results of the study

Aight, I gotta go