Cuz it’s vulnerable to confounding variables

well then you're throwing out all of sociology and physiology

because those fields always work in some amount of grey area

we can't know for certain what's going on in other people's heads

we can only test for how they act in the world

To a reasonable degree then

Yeah I think a point can be made with that urban culture is discriminated against

its imprecise science, but its science

But there is a fairly big chance it was athebpoverty thing more than the race thing

If they ran this study with Clyde as the name we could compare and see

That would be interesting

Also unconscious biases is not the same thing as systemic racism

I think we can all agree here that the study is not a study about racial discrimination

But cultural discrimination

yes, but even if it is entirely the poverty thing, then we still need to contend with the fact that black people are so disproportionately in poverty that their stereotypical black names have become associate with it

do you understand how that's almost no better

That isn’t true though dude

Again Washington and Jefferson

I have personally never met a black person with either of those names

I don’t care

but I will take your word for it that they are sterotypically black

i have met

I think your failing to understand my point

They are. It’s been documented

Ditto

just because there are exceptions to the rule, doesn't mean there isn'

t a rule

That would be true if there wasn’t another potential rule with less exceptions: poverty

ok, but did you read what I wrote about that being hardly any better?

Yes

black people are more likely to be named tyrone. black people are more likely to be in poverty. the black people named tyrone are more likely to be in the ghetto. Now anyone named tyrone (disproportionately black people) gets judged for the name because it is associated with poverty because \as a large contributing factor black people are disproportionately in property.

If we have bias against the impoverished that’s bad

and black people are more likely to be impoverished

which effects stereotypically black names

And White people makes Clyde or more likely to be impoverished too

Does that mean discriminations against Clyde is racist?

which effects all black people

But people aren’t biased towards the impoverished because of there race but because of there social class

The fact there happens to be a racial correlation with poverty doesn’t mean the discrimination was due to race

how do you know that @T2the2ndpowr You know it is based 0% on race or that people aren't using race a shortcut to infer poverty? How do you know that?

I don’t