Message from @Zurich04

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2020-09-14 19:18:00 UTC  

@lockwood or they researched it and came to a different conclusion than you

2020-09-14 19:18:07 UTC  

> The age of consent at 18 is stupid anyway, should be somewhere from 21-25
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2020-09-14 19:18:16 UTC  

right, and she was found criminally guilty of misconduct toward him

2020-09-14 19:18:21 UTC  

@lockwood stop spazzing

2020-09-14 19:18:24 UTC  

That's fucked

2020-09-14 19:18:25 UTC  

> @lockwood or they researched it and came to a different conclusion than you
@m.miller different not right one

2020-09-14 19:18:26 UTC  

I don’t agree with the law, but it’s not irrational

2020-09-14 19:18:42 UTC  

well...

2020-09-14 19:18:48 UTC  

@lockwood demonstrate how you have the correct conclusion

2020-09-14 19:18:54 UTC  

Oh no

2020-09-14 19:18:54 UTC  

of course it is. For an act that was committed as a violation of his consent at age 12, he will go to prison if he does not pay for child support

2020-09-14 19:19:09 UTC  

It will be demonstrated when you die no worries.

2020-09-14 19:19:11 UTC  

We’re gonna go down the rabbit hole of him trying to justify god

2020-09-14 19:19:20 UTC  

Yeah so they say lockwood

2020-09-14 19:19:26 UTC  

@lockwood nah that doesn't work.

2020-09-14 19:19:38 UTC  

doesn't work?

2020-09-14 19:19:47 UTC  

"I'm right til you're dead and find out nothing cause you're dead"

2020-09-14 19:19:51 UTC  

"so just deal with it"

2020-09-14 19:19:57 UTC  

You need to demonstrate your claim, not just cop out.

2020-09-14 19:20:23 UTC  

your claim is that you dont know

2020-09-14 19:20:43 UTC  

“The court stated that the state's interest in ensuring that a minor receives child support outweighed its interest in potentially deterring sexual crimes against minors.” Not a bad argument @BobbyMack

2020-09-14 19:20:45 UTC  

You're the one making the truth claim so you have the burdennof proof.

2020-09-14 19:20:46 UTC  

you kinda cop out

2020-09-14 19:20:48 UTC  

there

2020-09-14 19:21:22 UTC  

> You're the one making the truth claim so you have the burdennof proof.
@m.miller I dont if my truth will be shown regardless

2020-09-14 19:21:33 UTC  

Demonstrate that it will be shown

2020-09-14 19:22:13 UTC  

Feel in yourself how carefree you can be about that statement. Imagine for a moment the consequences of an adult male raping a 12 year old girl and having her go to prison for it, whether indirectly or not

2020-09-14 19:22:44 UTC  

There’s like 2 debates going on at once right now lol

2020-09-14 19:23:04 UTC  

yeah it's getting iffy

2020-09-14 19:23:06 UTC  

It’s not rape if it was consensual regardless of age imo

2020-09-14 19:23:25 UTC  

> There’s like 2 debates going on at once right now lol
@T2the2ndpowr

2020-09-14 19:23:28 UTC  

Laws like that in that situation are biased against men from what I’ve seen

2020-09-14 19:23:32 UTC  

Double standards

2020-09-14 19:23:32 UTC  

Under criminal law sure, under civil maybe not

2020-09-14 19:23:36 UTC  

that's an EXTREMELY controversial claim

2020-09-14 19:23:49 UTC  

"consent regardless of age" is an extremely controversial claim

2020-09-14 19:24:00 UTC  

I made an important distinction tho in my follow up

2020-09-14 19:24:25 UTC  

@Zurich04 id argue it is in both because the child doesn’t have the ability to make a decision like that

2020-09-14 19:24:44 UTC  

Also underaged sex is illegal, so if 2 minors were caught do they both get prosecuted

2020-09-14 19:24:54 UTC  

theoretically yes but in reality no

2020-09-14 19:25:07 UTC  

Under criminal law it should be considered rape perhaps. I’m just trying to rationalize on the spot so bare with me