i grew up in a place really liberal and consider myself liberal for many years but i dont really see the whole picture of the current version of liberalism. it seems it's become a way to attack others and rally around the cancel culture

Key word @Ron Ward "most"

@Notsoperfect does the interrogatories

so im searching for alt viewpoints on liberalism and conservatism

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ok

Well.. you are welcome to bring any topic or ask questions ect.. lots of people come and go in this chat room all day long

what do yall think about china

Raises hand... @Graylan | gray00 , I too was a democrat and liberal as you say...I walked away from a democrat political family in Washington and I voted for Trump in 2016 and am glad I did

as in the government or the people?

the CCP

Woo hoo you ranked up @Graylan | gray00

Bad juju there in China

well ive been having some problems

Brb

i develop code and build global networks, china always rouge bots roaming and the chinese botnets grow

seems a lil weird to me. you dont see it from anywhere else, not even russia

I don't think that it is too surprising .. as china is quite a threat to the US on a number of levels

so my question is if china blocks off the access to our internet why tf are they coming into our networks on special IPs and messing with our stuff

Well that all changed in '90 when USSR fell, China filled a void w/ real $

and generally being a leftie previously i see a lot of chinese influence coming into the west

ill give you an example

YOu know pewdiepie?

no

he's a popular Youtuber , think he has 100 mil followers

anyway, china bought him

he promotes for the CCP Now to kids

comedianmm youtuber

well may be more than that now

cuz he is promoting DLIVE , funded by chinese communist... and pro censorship/tracking

so i guess he is a commie promoter

sounds like they are wanting to infiltrate any way they can

so that's just weird isn't it

i have a long debate with dlive's owner

chinese guy ofc

and back then i knew something was off, then i seen they went and got funding and paid pewdiepie Felix

OK so this pewdiepie is what....an opportunist , more or less, doesn't care the source or purpose?

i'm not sure what's going on

it's just concerned me and i lost a lot of sleep over this

ive seen certain things from the us govt about this too and it makes me worried

a general on Youtube said "social media is the 5th dimension of warfare"