Message from @el pebble
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shit well if i existed back then i geuss i could be their messiah
just wear a wig and a beard
Since saints are not God, we do not pray to them but ask for them to intercede on our behalf. As James says, "The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful." (James 5:16) Saints, perfected in heaven are the perfect example of someone to ask to intercede. Now let us splice the point of the dead into several verses here. We are instructed that God is but the God of the living, using the late Israelite patriarchs for example in verses from Matthew 22:31-32. This is enough to posit the dead are just as alive if not more by being perfect in heaven and being filled with righteousness. Another important thing to note is the Transfiguration wherein Jesus talks to an earthly aware Moses and Elijah. Death is clearly not separating those in Heaven from Earth, nor witnessing and being aware of the world as in Hebrews 12:1.
Now onto these so called verses that are misconstrued that are clearly actualized requests for intercessions in Heaven.
[Revelation 5:8]
[Revelation 8:3-5]
[Luke 15:7-10
[Luke 15:7-10]
this idea of "praying to the dead" is a bald faced lie
@el pebble so your catholic right?
I am catholic insofar as holding the Apostolic church as true
so you believe in 3 deities that form god
3 deities?
what?
this tells me nothing
are you talking about the trinity?
you believe in the trinity
yes
Yes I do believe in the trinity
and it is not 3 deities
one indivisible essence
I do not get the concept of the trinity
then look up an explanation
so its a father a child and god?
it's the Holy Spirit, the Son and the Father
what about a daughter
<:HyperLmao:459545665517780993>
no
so your religion beliefs in one master sex?
what do you think happened to my one catholic garde school teahcer then?
a female
is she in hell for being the inferior sex?
what
the Trinity is simply not female
youre being silly
when I ask if a daughter was in the triad you said no
The trinity has more to do with roles than an actual gender of God
So the catholic females are on their path to hell for being the inferior sex?
wonder why Nio went silent after I addressed his silly idea of saint prayer and talmudic reasoning
God has no gender or sex because he created them