Message from @el pebble

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2018-12-02 03:56:20 UTC  

I am going to post my piece on intercession

2018-12-02 03:56:26 UTC  

shit well if i existed back then i geuss i could be their messiah

2018-12-02 03:56:34 UTC  

just wear a wig and a beard

2018-12-02 03:56:35 UTC  

Since saints are not God, we do not pray to them but ask for them to intercede on our behalf. As James says, "The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful." (James 5:16) Saints, perfected in heaven are the perfect example of someone to ask to intercede. Now let us splice the point of the dead into several verses here. We are instructed that God is but the God of the living, using the late Israelite patriarchs for example in verses from Matthew 22:31-32. This is enough to posit the dead are just as alive if not more by being perfect in heaven and being filled with righteousness. Another important thing to note is the Transfiguration wherein Jesus talks to an earthly aware Moses and Elijah. Death is clearly not separating those in Heaven from Earth, nor witnessing and being aware of the world as in Hebrews 12:1.
Now onto these so called verses that are misconstrued that are clearly actualized requests for intercessions in Heaven.

[Revelation 5:8]
[Revelation 8:3-5]
[Luke 15:7-10

2018-12-02 03:56:36 UTC  

2018-12-02 03:56:36 UTC  

2018-12-02 03:56:49 UTC  

[Luke 15:7-10]

2018-12-02 03:56:49 UTC  

2018-12-02 03:58:00 UTC  

this idea of "praying to the dead" is a bald faced lie

2018-12-02 03:58:29 UTC  

@el pebble so your catholic right?

2018-12-02 03:58:46 UTC  

I am catholic insofar as holding the Apostolic church as true

2018-12-02 03:59:10 UTC  

so you believe in 3 deities that form god

2018-12-02 03:59:24 UTC  

3 deities?

2018-12-02 03:59:25 UTC  

what?

2018-12-02 04:00:53 UTC  

this tells me nothing

2018-12-02 04:01:02 UTC  

are you talking about the trinity?

2018-12-02 04:01:07 UTC  

you believe in the trinity

2018-12-02 04:01:09 UTC  

yes

2018-12-02 04:01:22 UTC  

Yes I do believe in the trinity

2018-12-02 04:01:25 UTC  

and it is not 3 deities

2018-12-02 04:01:39 UTC  

It is three persons of one divinity

2018-12-02 04:01:42 UTC  

one indivisible essence

2018-12-02 04:01:43 UTC  

I do not get the concept of the trinity

2018-12-02 04:01:54 UTC  

then look up an explanation

2018-12-02 04:02:15 UTC  

so its a father a child and god?

2018-12-02 04:02:46 UTC  

it's the Holy Spirit, the Son and the Father

2018-12-02 04:03:45 UTC  

what about a daughter

2018-12-02 04:03:50 UTC  

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2018-12-02 04:04:07 UTC  

no

2018-12-02 04:04:27 UTC  

so your religion beliefs in one master sex?

2018-12-02 04:05:46 UTC  

what do you think happened to my one catholic garde school teahcer then?

2018-12-02 04:05:50 UTC  

a female

2018-12-02 04:06:26 UTC  

is she in hell for being the inferior sex?

2018-12-02 04:06:34 UTC  

what

2018-12-02 04:06:53 UTC  

the Trinity is simply not female

2018-12-02 04:06:57 UTC  

youre being silly

2018-12-02 04:07:00 UTC  

when I ask if a daughter was in the triad you said no

2018-12-02 04:07:32 UTC  

The trinity has more to do with roles than an actual gender of God

2018-12-02 04:07:42 UTC  

So the catholic females are on their path to hell for being the inferior sex?

2018-12-02 04:07:46 UTC  

wonder why Nio went silent after I addressed his silly idea of saint prayer and talmudic reasoning