Message from @Decay
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Thatโs the claim, can you demonstrate?
All morals derive from God, more than not a Godless moral society has had a religion in it's past or knowledge of one well enough to know it's moral code.
To prove that religion is not needed for morality, you'd need to take religion and all knowledge/memory of it out of the equation. Rejection of religion is still acknowledgment of it.
And to do so is virtually impossible in the modern world.
Thatโs a good argument that it is unlikely for a species to develop morals without also developing religion along side it (the details of how they relate over said time could potentially vary quite a bit). It says nothing about being able to have morals without god.
Do you mean:
-you cannot be moral without the existence of god to create morality
Or
-morality cannot develop without the idea of god
?
Both.
Islam best
Daily <@&516817984782729217> Question <:PraiseGod:484196233020440586>
- Do we have free will? Or is everything predetermined by God? Or a mix of both?
no free will
both
Mix of both
God is gay.
We have free will
but there is still fate
Individual free will is the will of god, everybody's path is decided by themselves through god.
God doesnt directly determine u to hell
Good luck creating a new insult, perhaps better too, next time.
why would anybody know the answer to that question
Anything anybody answers is only a guess
both, just because things are determined for everyone from birth to death doesn't mean the person isn't making a choice - the fact that they are capable of making another choice is sufficient for free will to exist
We already had this, but generally it depends on what we assume of god, if god is omnipiscent he knows all, including the future. However we have free will in that we dont know the future and therefore make decisions that are goign to occur anyway, and our decisions are going to be something in essence predetermined. Our knowing of the future, if we could, would also mean that we would still come to the point that we saw, the initiating factor beign seeing the future.
Based gayreek
greece should be metaxist and kill all faggots and atheists in their country
Kke best party
98% Orthodox.
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Not suprised the US orthodox is declining
Based greece
@Bogatyr Bogumir Who's better, Perun or Rod in your opinion?
Idk much about rod @Doctor Anon but i think hes sort of the sceibe of gods or the God of the Word. Generally i guess perun would still dominate
I still need to organizer my notes from gieysztor and then go through other books related to claim i have an avtual clue of what im Talking about
Hmmm