Message from @EyeKanSpel

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2018-06-24 12:39:49 UTC  

Best: Alexander Hamilton. As the first black president I have to love him

2018-06-24 12:39:50 UTC  

That's a mighty big leap

2018-06-24 12:40:08 UTC  

Lincoln is generally considered the best president by historians

2018-06-24 12:40:16 UTC  

The only reason not to like him is racism

2018-06-24 12:40:26 UTC  

Lol

2018-06-24 12:40:38 UTC  

I dislike lincoln and am not racist

2018-06-24 12:40:50 UTC  

Best: Jackson or Jefferson
Worst: Obama

2018-06-24 12:40:54 UTC  

"If you don't agree with me you're racist"

2018-06-24 12:40:58 UTC  

Ok libtard

2018-06-24 12:40:58 UTC  

I dont hate the emacipation proclimation but he had some other bad ideas

2018-06-24 12:41:04 UTC  

Furthermore, Andrew Jackson refused to enforce Georgia vs. Cherokee Nation, which caused the trail of tears due to his Indian Removal Act of 1830

2018-06-24 12:41:18 UTC  

Good!

2018-06-24 12:41:31 UTC  

It's good that he refused to do his job?

2018-06-24 12:42:35 UTC  

someone woke up on the condescending side of the bed.

2018-06-24 12:43:41 UTC  

He is good because
1: he was a problem solver
2: he understood better than maybe any other president what it took for a republic to function.
3: The dude was objectively a badass

2018-06-24 12:44:03 UTC  

He was literally so bad, an opposition party formed

2018-06-24 12:44:13 UTC  

Lol

2018-06-24 12:44:13 UTC  

Most point to him as the end of the Era of Good Feelings

2018-06-24 12:44:17 UTC  

That happens a lot

2018-06-24 12:44:24 UTC  

Does it actually?

2018-06-24 12:44:42 UTC  

I mean really, how many times in history does that happen?

2018-06-24 12:44:56 UTC  

If it's not a new party it's the other party

2018-06-24 12:45:14 UTC  

Right, but rarely does a *new* party form against him

2018-06-24 12:45:47 UTC  

My point is that we have such a string divide in our politics that anyone could look back and call nearly any president terrible because people opposed him.

2018-06-24 12:46:26 UTC  

Thats beyond opposition

2018-06-24 12:46:46 UTC  

An entirely new country formed because of lincoln

2018-06-24 12:46:51 UTC  

Does that make him bad?

2018-06-24 12:47:02 UTC  

I would argue that it was because of Taylor

2018-06-24 12:47:16 UTC  

You could argue a lot

2018-06-24 12:47:30 UTC  

He refused to handle the situation properly during the lame duck period

2018-06-24 12:47:30 UTC  

As to whys secession was a consideration

2018-06-24 12:47:46 UTC  

I know why, Its the jews.

2018-06-24 12:47:50 UTC  

However lincoln being elected is what triggered secession

2018-06-24 12:48:21 UTC  

Right, but Taylor could have done anything to stop it

2018-06-24 12:48:25 UTC  

And he refused to

2018-06-24 12:48:57 UTC  

That's indirect

2018-06-24 12:49:12 UTC  

Furthermore, it's still hotly debated if states have the actual right to leave the union- all we can say for sure is that they entered a state of rebellion

2018-06-24 12:49:30 UTC  

States do not have the right to leave the union.

2018-06-24 12:49:36 UTC  

That's a separate issue

2018-06-24 12:49:37 UTC  

I think the precedent for that was very clearly set.

2018-06-24 12:50:02 UTC  

Many countries explicitly state in their constitutions it is illegal to secede.