Didn’t the white hats get funding back?

Maybe through Israel

North Korea isn’t our problem if we withdraw from the region. We never should have been there in the first place.

I disagree

South Korea is a very valuable ally

NK is a global danger

That and the north is consistently threatening us with nuclear war so we have plenty of reason ot be involved.

yes

It is one of a few rogue nations

And although I am generally opposed to global intervention, in this case it is necessary.

They only threaten us because we are literally at war with them with an army at their doorstep. If we left, the regional powers would be more than able to contain NK. You guys really think China can’t take North Korea?

They don't want to

China won't contain North Korea because they are not a threat

Because we’re there

we need to just rip the bandaid off

get NK gone

We can do that slowly

NK is a failing state

eventually unification is inevitable

And since we are involved we can be rather certain that democracy will prevail

I think it is important to learn from South Korea, Japan, and Vietnam when dealing with the middle east.

I think we should take and colonize it by force

Democracy will prevail? Like in Afghanistan? Like Iraq?

No

That's my whole point

why we need to learn

In Japan and South Korea our system worked amazingly

Those two countries now have some of the best economies in the world

I guess that’s true.

but our intervention in Vietnam failed

do you know why?

because their food is too good

Because south Vietnam was weak and most Vietnamese supported the communist forces

they did not want democracy

They were not ready for it

So when we try to do what we did with Japan and Korea in places like Iraq of course it will fail

the culture in the middle east is not ready for democracy

It's not that our system for democratization is failed it's that a society has to be receptive to our help.

South Korea was pretty much in the same boat as South Vietnam. Weak leadership and a population that didn't give a fuck about democracy. North Korea outperformed South Korea economically until the 90's.

and if we learned anything from Vietnam, an organized guerilla force can win against nearly any power in their home country

The difference is that North Korea didn't overrun South Korea permanently.