Message from @Da_Fish

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2018-08-23 18:20:56 UTC  

It gives more freedom to the poor which is bad for our corporate overlords

2018-08-23 18:23:57 UTC  

Pretty much, a big side effect of UBI is companies increasing work standards

2018-08-23 18:24:08 UTC  

Because people have more options in general

2018-08-23 18:24:31 UTC  

People don't give up work entirely but perhaps work only 40 hours a work maximum

2018-08-23 18:24:36 UTC  

and are picky with jobs

2018-08-23 18:26:39 UTC  

UBI of 10,000$ per year (still below poverty line) would cost 2.6 trillion $ per year. Meaning that confiscating __all__ the wealth of those worth over 1 million dollars would find the program for 5 months. Meaning that after a very small threshold, you would only be getting your money back or losing it. It would cause the rich to not be able to create jobs for the poor and consumer products for the middle class. In addition, it would be extremely dangerous during an election period as a candidate could just run and promise to make it higher to get more votes.

2018-08-23 18:26:56 UTC  
2018-08-23 18:27:01 UTC  

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2018-08-23 18:27:27 UTC  

@Da_Fish still less than if we eliminated social security/medicare/etc.

2018-08-23 18:27:39 UTC  

Still a bad idea

2018-08-23 18:27:41 UTC  

Welfare

2018-08-23 18:27:54 UTC  

Preferable to welfare imo

2018-08-23 18:28:22 UTC  

Good video on the subject

2018-08-23 18:28:31 UTC  

I don't have a specific number for UBI

2018-08-23 18:28:45 UTC  

A youtube video nice!

2018-08-23 18:28:47 UTC  

@Deleted User watch the second one first

2018-08-23 18:28:53 UTC  

It discusses it well

2018-08-23 18:29:00 UTC  

UBI should just be a mechanism to replace and phase out welfare

2018-08-23 18:29:08 UTC  

UBI is welfare

2018-08-23 18:29:08 UTC  

Why not test UBI in a few smaller areas to see how well it works?

2018-08-23 18:29:10 UTC  

I do not see this mans qualifications on his patreon or youtube about page

2018-08-23 18:29:13 UTC  

@Obungus they did

2018-08-23 18:29:16 UTC  

@Obungus canada did this and it worked alright

2018-08-23 18:29:19 UTC  

In the US?

2018-08-23 18:29:22 UTC  

some places it failed

2018-08-23 18:29:22 UTC  

But it doesn’t show long term effects

2018-08-23 18:29:35 UTC  

@Obungus Canada did tests and Finland had it for a whil

2018-08-23 18:29:36 UTC  

E

2018-08-23 18:29:44 UTC  

Different countries

2018-08-23 18:29:46 UTC  

Swiss just rejected it

2018-08-23 18:29:48 UTC  

We could try it here

2018-08-23 18:29:49 UTC  

It worked well in Canada and Finland in homogenous towns

2018-08-23 18:29:54 UTC  

No

2018-08-23 18:30:01 UTC  

It didn’t show long term effects

2018-08-23 18:31:02 UTC  

This is what we should all strive for, if you arent for this you arent a real american

2018-08-23 18:31:28 UTC  

A movie is what we should base our society on!!!!

2018-08-23 18:31:30 UTC  

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2018-08-23 18:31:38 UTC  

That’s like totally realistic!!

2018-08-23 18:31:41 UTC  

UBI also doesn't encourage people to stay poor in the same manner as welfare but it does open up the can of worms of refusing to be employed and living in a barrel