Lol, I did it as a meme in another channel

And I would consider myself trad

no, authoritarianism restricts freedom and consequently value to life

Oooo edgy "I hate the state"

it's a legitimate position

i don't agree with it but there are some sound arguments against statism

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someone has "stormcloak" in their name

objectively the worst choice

Alright kids, everyone open up your copy of "The Doctrine of Fascism" by Giovanni Gentile and Benito Mussolini

*ehem*

"Whenever respect for the State declines and the disintegrating and centrifugal tendencies of individuals and groups prevail, nations are headed for decay"

Respect for the state is never high

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yeah

individualism is the cancer that afflicts the west

so i would say always authoritarians is required

however, historically the "wrong" people have had the power

excepting monarchy times

Authoritarian Democracy when

never, democracy is whats wrong with it, mate

True

the only way that such a system wouldnt self-implode is if the suffrage is severely limited, and then what definition of modern day democracy does that even fit

what about absolute monarchy municipalitanism

where instead of serfdoms, you give the princes a city and they are mayor

but, yeah, authoritarianism typically wont work anymore since the "wrong" people will usually be in charge

and then everything will go to absolute more shit than today

Authoritarianism is never justified, because certain economic freedoms and civil liberties should always be preserved for individuals, as there comes a point when a government won't be able to make choices that accurately reflect the preferences and future behaviors of the individuals they're ruling over. As a result, this makes centralized planning subject to very inaccurate predictions of outcomes for public policies

whether this fact is realized by those in government or not

Never justified? So, there shouldnt be a final say from anyone? No final authority like judges and so on? So, Ancap?

i'm speaking of authoritarianism; not authority in general

i'm not that opposed to the limited government that minarchists advocate

You can't equally guarentee everyone's sovereignty; some people have incompatible interests, and there is often asymmetrical economic and social power between different types of people as well. No right can be guarenteed outside of the state, so the very notion of rights implies planning from the beginning. Not all lifestyles and interests are conducive to a sustainable social order either, so those interests need to be denied by the state.

i can see the argument for how the notion of rights implies planning, but typically centralized planning and legal rights are regarded as distinct concepts

actually, probably always