So... we should get them to have thousand dollar surgeries that mutilate their bodies and do absolutely nothing for their mental state instead?

You know Johns Hopkins, the hospital that pioneered the surgery, no longer does it because of how fucking useless it is.

Transgender surgery is a joke.

The link between transgenderism and preexisting mental illness is insane.

at least it can be helpful even if it usually doesn't solve anything

How is it helpful?

What does it do?

ruin peoples lives

for some transgender people they feel more secure about their identity

but that's a minority

Statistically not supported.

Suicide rates are the same before and after.

it sterilise them, that's useful

and yeah transgender people have mismatched brains and chromosomes mental illnesses will be more common

For the many that are going through a phase or unable to cope with their homosexuality it permanently mutilates their body and ruins their life.

but conversion therapy is not a good way of dealing with that

lobotomy is

The surgery should be illegal.

show me one instance in which lobotomy has had positive effects on a transgender person

brain surgery for every mental illness

we have better science now

Uhhh how many lobotomies have been given to transgender people?

transgenderism isn't inherently a medical illness there's just a correlation

You're asking for something impossible.

why do we need to be concerned by the well-being of transgender people?

because there americans

Until two seconds ago the DSM said it was a mental illness.

because they are people and compassion is nice

we have better science now

is this an argument about trans

you may as well become an efilist then

The science didn't change lmao

The science did not change an iota between before and after they reclassified it.

mental illness is not science

You can safely say it was a political conciliatory move.

yes it is

lobotmize anyone who is trans not gay

because gay people at least know what they are

so do transgender people

i dunno what I am

I just take hormones because it makes me feel better about myself