if a nation doesn't want to serve in the military just let the nation fall

you have diane feinstein in the pocket of china, and a bunch of others like hillary selling the country to the highest bidder

Mandatory military service is key

USA only gets recruits because of pay

70%+ join purely for pay

stop romanticizing it

give the country to royals and at least they will improve the country for the ego enhancing capability

they have nothing to gain by short term thieving.

@Deleted User instill values of nationalism in schools

unlike democracy where they have everything to gain

Im sure 90% of all military recruits in history were either forced in via conscription or forced in softly via pay

every other opportunity was likely bad

no, a lot of military had huge prestige

Literally only for officers

Enlisted were 90%

Go ask the average enlisted in the navy

yeah, but peasants had a better life even if they werent officers

about this shit

Yeah that's pay

Not because of 'national pride'

Youth should have to serve in the Military at 18 for 2 years

unless you were some retard

who joined after 9/11

to die for israel

well, obviously there must be some social or monetary benefit

thats true for any human action

social/monetary benefit is the core

everything else is made up

I have a friend who just joined the military because he wanted to travel and is being stationed in okinawa

'company culture'

that's an aspect of pay

I know I was just giving an example

He received value

yeah

I was agreeing with you

ah well yeah

I was gonna join the navy for a while

I mean to an extent even honor from serving is a form of "pay"

talked to a lot of navy vets

they're all cynical as fuck

and all told me it's garbage