and we all know faith isnt fact

no matter how hard you believe in it, we dont use god in science or mathematics

yes

A search for what God is, is what sent us down the path of discovery.

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k what’s the connection

A hunger for knowledge of why it is that God did what he did.

Which lead to philosophy, which lead to modern science.

Now we argue over what is right, or wrong, and gauge how right something is compared to another.

Morality is objective, meaning it has a truth element outside of the mind. Moral systems are constructs built off of that objective truth

I don't think there is anything in modern morality that is "outside the mind".

Perhaps if I saw somebody struck by lightning out of a blue sky for doing something immoral, then there would be proof of an objective morality.

Sure there are, things like degeneracy and the negative effect it has on those people and their society.

Why must the consequences be immediate and obvious?

An agreed upon set of ethics and decisions on what is more right won't sway me. I think there is justification for morality, but no true morality that presides above the rest.

‘degeneracy’ is one of the most subjective things out there

It's like, what is the difference between righteous anger, and indignation to you?

Not really. If you believe in degeneracy, it becomes pretty obvious what are degenerate acts, naturally there will be edge cases as there are in everything.

When does killing become murder?

When does indulgence become degenerate?

Murder is easily defined. Premeditated and unjustified killing

Who decides what is Just when it comes to killing?

Ideally it shouldn't be a "who". There should be some standard which determines what is justification

But that's not how the Courts work.

Because humans aren't capable of attaining perfect objectivity

Should we do away with the courts and have a paper run them instead?

What?

Who would write this Mystical document that would enforce right and wrong and not be subjected to any interpretation?

How would that be enforced?

What would enforce it?

This has nothing to do with the morality and justification of a thing, you are asking questions of application

And I never mentioned a document

I'm asking how is there a definite morality.

No you weren't

Yes, I was.

If there is an objective morality, what is it?

You asked about a document that would enforce the morality. Not how morality is definite

Holy, sweet Lord, give me strength.

A document would be the application of the morality

I asked those questions because you said it should not be a "who" that decides what is Just

Which implies it should be a what.