Message from @SilverLining

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2018-09-08 20:25:16 UTC  

is laws would differ wildly

2018-09-08 20:25:16 UTC  

In a confederation, ofc

2018-09-08 20:25:32 UTC  

I think a constitution should be in place

2018-09-08 20:25:36 UTC  

as well

2018-09-08 20:25:41 UTC  

and it would be easy for a large group of people with a specific idealogy to all move to a specific town

2018-09-08 20:25:48 UTC  

to secure basic rights, at least within decent regions

2018-09-08 20:25:58 UTC  

eh, maybe town is too small

2018-09-08 20:26:03 UTC  

what about legalization of items

2018-09-08 20:26:04 UTC  

County, or even province/state based

2018-09-08 20:26:22 UTC  

i think the us is good how it is

2018-09-08 20:26:29 UTC  

confederacy has too many problems

2018-09-08 20:26:38 UTC  

and is really easy to fall apart

2018-09-08 20:27:09 UTC  

eh

2018-09-08 20:27:12 UTC  

not in modern days

2018-09-08 20:27:52 UTC  

@SilverLining heres a question

2018-09-08 20:27:58 UTC  

is the un a confederacy or federation

2018-09-08 20:28:11 UTC  

is the eu a confederacy or federation

2018-09-08 20:28:14 UTC  

confederacy I'd say

2018-09-08 20:28:36 UTC  

what about the eu?

2018-09-08 20:28:54 UTC  
2018-09-08 20:29:36 UTC  

confederacy

2018-09-08 20:33:54 UTC  

@SilverLining not really

2018-09-08 20:34:08 UTC  

universal currency

2018-09-08 20:34:11 UTC  

universal laws

2018-09-08 20:34:17 UTC  

universal trade

2018-09-08 20:35:09 UTC  

there's still such a massive degree of autonomy within each state that it'd be unreasonable to call it a federation

2018-09-08 20:36:21 UTC  

universal currency lmao

2018-09-08 20:38:01 UTC  

there's the pound, the krona/krone, the zloty, the forint

2018-09-08 20:38:11 UTC  

the currency is far from universal

2018-09-08 20:38:13 UTC  

GB got to keep the pound, even

2018-09-08 20:38:23 UTC  

also

2018-09-08 20:38:25 UTC  

the laws aren't really

2018-09-08 20:38:27 UTC  

entirely universal

2018-09-08 20:38:41 UTC  

and is there a federation between Canada, the US, and Mexico because NAFTA is a thing?

2018-09-08 20:39:37 UTC  

yeah saying the laws of different countries in the eu are universal by any measure is just completely ignorant

2018-09-08 20:48:52 UTC  

I mean you can form a state based o ethnic lines, for example Poland is majority, and I mean 80% + lechite tribe descendants, with Kaszubians and potentially sillesians thrown into the mix. Other than that we are one tribe one ethnicity and generaly when speaking of values and culture, they have to be tied to a forefather myth or legend, something to tie them down and make them real, otherwise they will change literally every generation. People need a sense that they are incarnation of a set of values and culture of their forefathers (which they are) than simply a set of esoteric values that have well, nowhere to be pinned down to.

I do agree in the autonomy part inso much that related, however not necessarily closely related, ethnicities should have some proper representation such that they simply dont feel isolated or dwarfed or suffocated adn as such want to participate in the commonwealth.

2018-09-08 21:02:42 UTC  

"People need a sense that they are incarnation of a set of values and culture of their forefathers (which they are) than simply a set of esoteric values that have well, nowhere to be pinned down to. "

2018-09-08 21:02:44 UTC  

Why?

2018-09-08 21:02:58 UTC  

Nobody actually follows the values of their forefathers at this point

2018-09-08 21:39:15 UTC  

The alternative is the Cosmopolitan worldview. And well that hasn't treated European nations too well

2018-09-08 21:44:26 UTC  

And plus it seems to be those of European descent (whether as a side product or malicious intent) have abandoned their values.
Those of African, Middle Eastern, Asian, and Latin American descent hold on to their values