Message from @Bogatyr Bogumir

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2018-09-16 21:46:56 UTC  

it would have legitimately changed the face of the nation.

2018-09-16 21:47:01 UTC  

Well I guess that’s worth the massive explosion of organized crime and underground market for alcohol

2018-09-16 21:47:08 UTC  

Said nobody

2018-09-16 21:47:53 UTC  

When your leading cause of death is liver crihorssis it becomes a measure that has to be considered (at least I believe that was the leading cause of death pre prohibition, at least for chronic medical causes)

2018-09-16 21:48:12 UTC  

It was such a failure that it managed to have enough support to pass an amendment to repeal the amendment that created prohibition

2018-09-16 21:48:30 UTC  

How many people even died from that before prohibition?

2018-09-16 21:48:53 UTC  

I think it was substantial enough looking into CDC right now.

2018-09-16 21:48:58 UTC  

i may be wrong

2018-09-16 21:49:28 UTC  

Well if you’re using it as the centerpiece of your argument then you should have a good idea on the stats

2018-09-16 21:49:35 UTC  

cirrhosis dropped massively after prohibition

2018-09-16 21:49:48 UTC  

apparently the document is the size of jupiter 1 sec

2018-09-16 21:49:55 UTC  

@killsometime

"The government shouldn’t dictate how the culture evolves though. It should happen organically with the people."

It absolutely should.

2018-09-16 21:50:00 UTC  

holy shit well, time to dive in

2018-09-16 21:50:12 UTC  

"Whenever respect for the State declines and the disintegrating and centrifugal tendencies of individuals and groups prevail, nations are headed for decay"

2018-09-16 21:50:18 UTC  

-Benito Mussolini

2018-09-16 21:51:02 UTC  

Yes, who wouldn’t want to use the ideals of Mussolini in the United States.

2018-09-16 21:51:05 UTC  

Libertarianism doesn't work

2018-09-16 21:51:13 UTC  

Not only from an economic perspective

2018-09-16 21:51:25 UTC  

okay well the CDC's document crashed my plug in

2018-09-16 21:51:30 UTC  

It just never lasts

2018-09-16 21:51:33 UTC  

will look into other stats

2018-09-16 21:52:15 UTC  

>inb4 "Well the US was libertarian"

No it wasn't

2018-09-16 21:52:26 UTC  

Wasn’t gonna say that but alright

2018-09-16 21:52:30 UTC  

well good

2018-09-16 21:52:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955238186614794/491003487606407195/unknown.png

2018-09-16 21:52:42 UTC  

from ny times

2018-09-16 21:53:40 UTC  

it killed cirhossis rates by 10-20%

2018-09-16 21:53:45 UTC  

from research gate

2018-09-16 21:53:59 UTC  

however state level prohibition didnt do much if anything at all

2018-09-16 21:54:52 UTC  

national prohibition prevents people from other states bringing alcohol in

2018-09-16 21:54:58 UTC  

@killsometime What is the purpose of the state, in your words

2018-09-16 21:56:16 UTC  

To enforce common law and create the means for a functioning economy

2018-09-16 21:56:48 UTC  

While preserving the ideal of personal sovereignty

2018-09-16 21:57:27 UTC  

And promoting it as well

2018-09-16 21:59:22 UTC  

gay

2018-09-16 21:59:22 UTC  

no u

2018-09-16 21:59:35 UTC  

The purpose of the state in my eyes, should be to protect its people from both internal and external forces, while aiming for success and prosperity in the long term.

2018-09-16 21:59:44 UTC  

To do this requires state intervention and a strong government to ensure national unity

2018-09-16 22:01:02 UTC  

I agree. To me that would fall under “creating the means for a functioning economy” because you can’t have a functioning economy if you’re being invaded every 4 years

2018-09-16 22:01:42 UTC  

Second part I’m a little iffy

2018-09-16 22:01:48 UTC  

But mostly on board