Message from @Zayan Watchel

Discord ID: 493527102214373376


2018-09-23 20:57:00 UTC  

It literally refutes nothing

2018-09-23 20:57:20 UTC  

Social media platforms should be nationalized and the bill for rights enforced

2018-09-23 20:57:20 UTC  

The government should get out of bed. If it did that then these governments wouldn't grow to the point of unavoidability.

2018-09-23 20:57:37 UTC  

Much free markets.

2018-09-23 20:57:47 UTC  

You have a justification for that?

2018-09-23 20:58:05 UTC  

You have to have a very high IQ to understand lolbertarianism

2018-09-23 20:58:15 UTC  

Stop mocking me and make an argument

2018-09-23 20:58:19 UTC  

Libs always turn into natsocs

2018-09-23 20:58:23 UTC  

@Zayan Watchel We gave one, and you didn't like it, which is fine, but don't pretend nobody ever made one

2018-09-23 20:58:32 UTC  

What was the argument?

2018-09-23 20:58:48 UTC  

<:facepalm:459545653509357578>

2018-09-23 20:59:12 UTC  

Stop using emojis and mocking me in an argument over politics!

2018-09-23 20:59:26 UTC  

Okay, let's back up and find the root of our disagreement

2018-09-23 20:59:31 UTC  

Sure.

2018-09-23 20:59:34 UTC  

Social Media Platforms are on level to town squares, which are public areas of free speech

2018-09-23 20:59:34 UTC  

What is the purpose of government? @Zayan Watchel

2018-09-23 20:59:38 UTC  

Not private companies

2018-09-23 20:59:52 UTC  

To protect the four civil liberties of Life, Liberty, Health and Property.

2018-09-23 21:00:07 UTC  

hurr durr the purpose of government is to exploit the citizen communism yay

2018-09-23 21:00:23 UTC  

What about CC cams in public places

2018-09-23 21:00:30 UTC  

Those are bad.

2018-09-23 21:00:36 UTC  

Actually, no.

2018-09-23 21:00:43 UTC  

That depends on who owns the building.

2018-09-23 21:00:46 UTC  

Or public place.

2018-09-23 21:01:09 UTC  

@Zayan Watchel I'll refer to Mussolini when stating my vision of government, but to put it in my own words

2018-09-23 21:01:47 UTC  

The state exists to protect the people, from both internal and external forces, and to protect the culture, all while creating favorable standards of living,

2018-09-23 21:02:14 UTC  

Okay.

2018-09-23 21:02:16 UTC  

Why?

2018-09-23 21:04:32 UTC  

All of this requires a powerful government.

As for why, because of what use is your country if the people succumb to nihilistic consumerism?

What reason would they have to take pride in it, and, if they lack pride in it, why would they protect it? See modern day Europe and the United States.

Flooded with third worlders, a preference for foreigners, no fucking respect, absolute hatred of their own country @Zayan Watchel

2018-09-23 21:05:09 UTC  

^Summed up: Nationalism is good

2018-09-23 21:05:36 UTC  

<:this:487682424562647060>

2018-09-23 21:05:42 UTC  

Nationalism is great, I agree, but I think if we strip this country of all social programs and removed the corrupt incentives for third worlders to come here, we could open the borders.

2018-09-23 21:06:05 UTC  

All social programs?

2018-09-23 21:06:06 UTC  

"strip the country of all social programs"

2018-09-23 21:06:07 UTC  

Nonono

2018-09-23 21:06:07 UTC  

Until then, it's necessary for the borders to remain close, which I think is an unjust usage of government.

2018-09-23 21:06:24 UTC  

@Deleted User Summed up: Fascism is good*

2018-09-23 21:06:25 UTC  

Well. Hit me with a program, let's go down the list.

2018-09-23 21:06:50 UTC  

Social programs such as tax benefits for a stable nuclear family with kids

2018-09-23 21:07:01 UTC  

To encourage native population growth

2018-09-23 21:07:26 UTC  

Tax benefits should not exist to anyone. 15% tax rate for each person.