You sound like a commie now

>he thinks liberty is exclusive to being a lolbertarian

Greed is taking from others

Liberty is what led to the position we find ourselves in today

oh dear

Liberty =/= libertarian

^

Libertarians believe that people should keep their money and be able to do as they please without violating people's rights

I don't think people should be able to fuck their dogs

I think those people should be lined up and shot

but a libertarian would vouch for that

they'd also vouch for letting interracial couples populate their society

and they'd allow jews to run their industries

The state and people should be seen as a body, and collaboration should be encouraged, albeit within a hierarchy

which is the situation we are in today

thanks to the enlightenment movement and of all of it's "liberal" thinkers

no

A nation that is built upon the pursuit of atomized self-interest will not last

Libertarians have the false notion that everyone lives in a fucking bubble

Here's what you're not getting

and that nobody is affected by your neighbor owning a child slave farm

oh fuck

that laws and morality are subjective and should hardly if at all be enforced

Anarcho capitalism is not Libertarianism

There's little difference

There is

one simply acknowledges what it is

the other is in denial

Libertarians don't want the NAP to be optional

both scenarios described would violate an animal or a human right

@Da_Fish At one point do you draw the distinction of someone's actions not affecting someone else? That's pretty subjective

AnCaps want all things to be optional

so do liberatarians

@The Big Oof No stealing, No harming/killing, no breaking contracts

No

@Deleted User

Everything that we live in today is a result of libertarian policies

I could say all of the wealth being in the hands of the few is bad for the economy, and therefore affects everyone else.

False

It's a pretty subjective position

Libertarianism does not cause a powerful 1%