Message from @Silkiri

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2018-11-17 00:08:49 UTC  

Yes when they ban the liberals

2018-11-17 00:08:56 UTC  

And trolls

2018-11-17 00:09:47 UTC  

troll confirmed

2018-11-17 00:11:35 UTC  

@WAR so you dismiss what we say and call us liberals

2018-11-17 00:12:30 UTC  

let's go back to the question,shall we?
so if we pass a law enforcing the first ammendment on social media it might not be so important to snowball into a more authoritarian US government

2018-11-17 00:13:30 UTC  

I mean,remember the PATRIOT act?

2018-11-17 00:28:12 UTC  

That assumes authoritarianism is bad

2018-11-17 01:12:44 UTC  

authoritarianism isn't inherently good or bad, it depends on what it sets out to accomplish and what its results are

2018-11-17 01:20:46 UTC  

well

2018-11-17 01:21:05 UTC  

I like to use the PRC as an example of when a politician gets way too much power

2018-11-17 01:21:27 UTC  

the communist party basically owns all the other parties and the politicians in it

2018-11-17 01:21:47 UTC  

Xi Jinping basically makes himself stay in office until he retires

2018-11-17 01:25:06 UTC  

and nothing can overthrow him

2018-11-17 01:25:34 UTC  

β€œNothing”

2018-11-17 01:25:38 UTC  

Hmm

2018-11-17 01:26:01 UTC  

<:Chad:476653434637123584>

2018-11-17 01:27:01 UTC  

name one politician that can oppose to Xi Jinping (internally to the PRC)

2018-11-17 01:30:15 UTC  

Chiang Kai-shek

2018-11-17 01:30:42 UTC  

in modern terms sperg

2018-11-17 01:34:17 UTC  

hi

2018-11-17 01:34:49 UTC  

so what debate do we have going on here

2018-11-17 01:37:15 UTC  

whether we should regulate social media to ensure free speech or not

2018-11-17 01:37:44 UTC  

A internet bill of rights essentially?

2018-11-17 01:37:58 UTC  

and now seems like whether authoritarianism is bad or not
pretty much,yeah

2018-11-17 01:38:14 UTC  

Yeah we really should

2018-11-17 01:38:21 UTC  

have a internet bill of rights

2018-11-17 01:38:51 UTC  

and as big oof it does depend on what authoritarianism is

2018-11-17 01:39:07 UTC  

The term isn't inherently good or bad

2018-11-17 01:40:16 UTC  

I'd just limit it to enforce the first ammendment on social media
I don't think it'd give more power to the government to get into private companies' business than the PATRIOT act already does

2018-11-17 01:41:32 UTC  

I agree with you

2018-11-17 01:41:44 UTC  

free speech is important no matter how radical the ideas are

2018-11-17 01:42:09 UTC  

in fact hate speech will only worsen the situation by outlawing thoughts

2018-11-17 01:42:32 UTC  

as this means they don't need to be contested with and they only attract sympathizers who will actually listen to them and get radicalized themselves without opposition

2018-11-17 01:45:33 UTC  

πŸ‘

2018-11-17 01:46:49 UTC  

so that's my thoughts on it

2018-11-17 01:46:54 UTC  

from a Communist lol

I mean, I feel like the communistic way to approach it would be to simply nationalize social networking sites and place them directly under the oversight of government

and then guarantee free speech by means of public ownership

2018-11-17 02:28:40 UTC  

now would that work in an actual communist society?

2018-11-17 02:29:42 UTC  

well,you know the rest

2018-11-17 02:45:51 UTC  

Well yeah it would.